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Is there an official map of the entirety of Arda?

Goldeneye
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Dec 29 2015, 2:06am

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Is there an official map of the entirety of Arda? Can't Post

The only one I can think of is the map in A Tolkien Bestiary by David Day, but I'm not sure if that's considered canon.


Otaku-sempai
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Dec 29 2015, 4:21am

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The closest thing to an official map of Arda (in the First Age) that I can think of is a drawing of Arda made by Tolkien that is reproduced in The Shaping of Middle-earth. Karen Wynn Fonstad did create a map based on it for her revised edition of The Atlas of Middle-earth:



Here is a second illustration that includes Arda in the Third Age:



And here is Arda for the Middle-earth Role Playing (MERP) game (before the publication of The Shaping of Middle-earth):



"Things need not to have happened to be true.
Tales and dreams are the shadow-truths that will endure
when mere facts are dust and ashes, and forgot."


- Dream of the Endless


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Elthir
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Dec 29 2015, 2:07pm

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No, not in my opinion [In reply to] Can't Post

As mentioned, there are diagrams and maps made by Tolkien in the mid 1930s (The Shaping of Middle-Earth), but for example, does anyone consider the Quenta Silmarillion of the mid to later 1930s official (although maybe it depends upon the definition of official)?

I guess one could say these were Tolkien-made and thus represent JRRT's views...

... at the time Smile

I consider the Pauline Baynes map to be official as it was Tolkien-approved, but that isn't the whole of Arda of course.


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Otaku-sempai
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Dec 29 2015, 3:46pm

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The only one I can think of is the map in A Tolkien Bestiary by David Day, but I'm not sure if that's considered canon.


The composite map drawn by Allan Curless (not David Day) for A Tolkien Bestiary is highly interpretive and not accurate at all physically, as it deliberately plays fast and loose with the geography of Middle-earth. Note that the lands of Beleriand and Angmar are north of Eriador instead of to the west, and the Blue Mountains have been extended to match. And without the later descriptions given for the island of Númenor we do not see it as star-shaped. We also do not get the sense of Harad essentially being another continent with the same relationship to the rest of Middle-earth as Africa to Europe and Asia.



Likewise, Peter Fenlon's poster-map of Middle-earth for MERP looks very different from both Curless' map and Professor Tolkien's own drawings. Nor does it depict any of the uninhabited 'Dark Lands' beyond the shores of Middle-earth proper.

"Things need not to have happened to be true.
Tales and dreams are the shadow-truths that will endure
when mere facts are dust and ashes, and forgot."


- Dream of the Endless


(This post was edited by Otaku-sempai on Dec 29 2015, 3:51pm)

 
 

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