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grimbeorn15
Rivendell
Nov 21 2015, 5:54pm
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Don't like the Hobbit movies- DON'T WATCH THEM!
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It's not that complicated. I have been a hardcore Tolkien fan far longer than these movies have been around, and yes, there are certain scenes I could do without and others I wish we had, but overall I am extremely grateful for the films. They are not the definitive versions of Middle Earth, but only one interpretation. We will always have the books and more importantly our imaginations. I would go so far as to say that imagination is exactly what the critics lack including those that are hardcore Tolkien fans. Film making is hard. Take the films for what they're worth and stop being so ridiculously defensive. Imagination allows each of us our own experiences in Middle Earth. Take the aspects of the films you like and leave the others. Most importantly go read the book. Allow all interpretations of Middle Earth to fuel your imagination...that is if you have one.
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DainPig
Gondor
Nov 21 2015, 6:00pm
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You made a point.
The movies did not ruin the book. The book still there.
If you did not like PJ's version, so don't watch it. Go read the book.
How aaaaaaaaaaaaaare you all???
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Elarie
Grey Havens
Nov 21 2015, 7:10pm
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LOL - Could it really be that simple?
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I also have frequently wondered why people who hate the movies keep going over and over it in their minds and can't let go. The books are wonderful and magical and will always be there and if the movies did not come up to some people's expectations it's too late to do anything about it now. It's sad when you look forward to a movie and then get disappointed but it happens. I've seen lots of movies that I thought stunk and there's nothing to do but move on.
Now excuse me while I try to decide whether to watch "Boyhood" again or just sit here and hit myself on the head with a brick. 
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Gold is the strife of kinsmen,
and fire of the flood-tide,
and the path of the serpent.
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Ringtir
Rivendell
Nov 21 2015, 7:11pm
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I've said the same about a possible Silmarillion adaptation by PJ
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But, at least can we argue and point why we don't like The Hobbit movies?
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Bumblingidiot
Rohan
Nov 21 2015, 9:35pm
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It's more a case of not watching particular scenes,
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for many of us, it would seem. That's much harder to arrange, unless you have access to your own personal 'fan edit'. I sometimes go and make a cup of tea during the worst moments, but it does break the continuity of the experience.
"Oh dear, oh dear, oh dear."
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Hanzkaz
Rohan
Nov 22 2015, 8:11am
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I thought I was a hardcore Tolkien fan -
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- until I came here.
From the makers of 'The Lord of the Rings' comes the sequel to Peter Jackson's Hobbit Trilogy -
'The War in the North, Part I : The Sword in the Tomb'.
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Arannir
Valinor
Nov 22 2015, 7:09pm
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I assume most of us can decide for ourselves whether and why to come here and discuss these movies (yes, also disappointment).
Thanks for your advice but it is really not needed, at least not in that kind of tone.
"I am afraid it is only too likely to be true what you say about the critics and the public. I am dreading the publication for it will be impossible not to mind what is said. I have exposed my heart to be shot at." J.R.R. Tolkien
We all have our hearts and minds one way or another invested in these books and movies. So we all mind and should show the necessary respect.
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grimbeorn15
Rivendell
Nov 22 2015, 11:22pm
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I have the utmost of respect for Tolkien fans of any persuasion, what I don't respect is fans or non-fans alike who watch the films and have nothing better to do than constantly tear into the film makers. If you don't like the films- great! I respect that. Stop watching and do something else. Just don't assume that you could do it better. Film making is really tough. Having worked in the field professionally I can attest to this. As I originally stated, I'm grateful for the interpretation but it's no replacement for my own imagination. The PJ bashing needs to stop.
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Omnigeek
Lorien
Nov 23 2015, 2:35am
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Some of the steadfast PJ defenders mistake the criticisms
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As luck would have it, I am watching the extended version of "Robin Hood: Prince of Thieves" at the moment and am struck somewhat by the parallels. As a chronicle of the tales of Robin Hood, this movie is frankly awful. Costner took extensive liberties in this rendition and there are numerous historical and physical inconsistencies. Even fans of the movie derided Costner's predilection for showing his posterior in a gratuitous scene or the lack of even an attempt at an English accent (properly mocked by Cary Elwes in "Robin Hood: Men in Tights". As a movie, it was delightful with spectacular visual sequences, exciting action, and lots of humor (Alan Rickman stole the whole movie with his portrayal of the Sheriff of Nottingham).
As another analogy, even the most hardcore Star Wars fans will acknowledge shortcomings of the prequel trilogy (not the least of which was Jar Jar Binks). I think many of us regard the whole love triangle bit as the Jar Jar Binks of the Hobbit trilogy -- complaining about that aspect doesn't mean one hates the whole production or doesn't appreciate the artistic achievement.
A lot of the kneejerk defenders erroneously take honest critiicism (or complaints) for general hate of the movies. I will probably pick up copies of this trilogy when it's offered in a single edition rather than make the same mistake I did with LOTR, resulting in 4 copies of that trilogy on my shelves. I doubt I'll watch it as often as the LOTR trilogy or even the Rankin-Bass cartoon but that doesn't mean I won't watch it. The fact I dislike the costumes on the dwarves won't keep me from appreciating them singing "Far o'er the Misty Mountains" or the whole Goblin-town sequence. My disgust and annoyance with the love triangle won't keep me from appreciating the Tauriel character in general or Evangeline Lilly's fine performance. My objections to the Azog storyline or dislike of the extra gore in the EE don't keep me from enjoying the central battle in BOTFA.
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, because I cannot resist the urge to fast forward through the parts I don't like. At the same time the parts I do enjoy, I can watch those over and over...so I guess it balances all out. 
