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dissapointed with Sauron, EE will fix it?

Mr. Arkenstone (isaac)
Tol Eressea

Sep 22 2015, 9:43pm

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dissapointed with Sauron, EE will fix it? Can't Post

look at this screencap

http://screencapped.net/movie/lotr/displayimage.php?album=166&pid=528419#top_display_media

is not from DOS it is from BOTFA, they litterally used the footage from DoS to the power exchange between Galadriel and Sauron, so, apparently/obbiously this footage is likely to be higly changed?

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DeadRabbits
Rohan


Sep 22 2015, 9:50pm

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Hopefully, yes! [In reply to] Can't Post

It seemed strange that so much footage was reused during the Battle of Dol Guldur, when we know that different scenes were shot (like the one with flaming Sauron coming down the stairs).

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Thrain II
Lorien


Sep 22 2015, 9:52pm

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There is that scene from the trailer, and Benedict said that he did motion capture for Sauron also. Philippa mentioned that we can expect more from the 3 elven rings in EE, but who knows at the end what ended up in it. Unsure


NoelGallagher
Rohan


Sep 22 2015, 10:39pm

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It would need massive fixing to satisfy me [In reply to] Can't Post

But I highly doubt it will happen.


Bishop
Gondor


Sep 23 2015, 1:09am

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Are you disappointed with Sauron because Jackson recycled approximately 5 frames of video from DOS?


Dipling
Lorien

Sep 23 2015, 4:51am

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There is that scene from the trailer, and Benedict said that he did motion capture for Sauron also. Philippa mentioned that we can expect more from the 3 elven rings in EE, but who knows at the end what ended up in it. Unsure


...we have only 20 minutes of extra time.


NoelGallagher
Rohan


Sep 23 2015, 8:26am

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Im disappointed with Dol Guldur in general [In reply to] Can't Post


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Are you disappointed with Sauron because Jackson recycled approximately 5 frames of video from DOS?


So much wasted, the chance of bringing something mysterious and creepy on screen.


Bofur01
Lorien


Sep 23 2015, 10:11am

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He reused the Dol Guldur shot of Gandy and Raddy on the sled towards DG, but in reverse and with the sled removed, and Gandy and Raddy's conversation via spells reused a shot and spell of Radagast from AUJ while never showing Gandy's mouth, as he's speaking the spell that heals Thorin on the Carrock. It's a bit of a mess... And I also think (haven't checked) that the shot of Gandy in his cage is just the DoS shot reversed too.


Bishop
Gondor


Sep 23 2015, 7:13pm

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I had no idea so much footage was reused. I wonder why the Dol Guldur plotline was so difficult for them to conclude? I'm sincerely curious as to how the process went. Each film had a year to get right after it was determined early on that there would be three films. Did they not have a good plan going into it, even when it was two films, and just tried to fill in the gaps with greenscreen pickups?


LSF
Gondor

Sep 23 2015, 7:24pm

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Yeah, I didn't notice that they reused that much footage. I think I noticed the Radagast one, but that's it. Maybe they couldn't get the effects to look/work right in time, or their plan wasn't perfectly set in time.

Well, it looks like all the Dul Guldor behind the scenes is in the BOFA EE discs (they barely mentioned any of it in the DOS one), so if we're gonna find out why, it'll be then.


Bishop
Gondor


Sep 23 2015, 7:59pm

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I'm getting paranoid [In reply to] Can't Post

That's twice now in this thread that my subject line was duplicated exactly in the following post. Wink


LSF
Gondor

Sep 23 2015, 8:06pm

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I'm not a fan of trying to think up subject lines with every single post I do. I'm not good at that kind of thing Tongue


Bishop
Gondor


Sep 23 2015, 8:12pm

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I just thought it was funny. It happened twice, the one before with a different member.


MouthofSauron
Tol Eressea


Sep 27 2015, 12:37am

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Are you disappointed with Sauron because Jackson recycled approximately 5 frames of video from DOS?


So much wasted, the chance of bringing something mysterious and creepy on screen.

The ringwraiths were pretty dang creepy if you ask me. The thing is if sauron did attack galadriel/saruman/elrond and we saw that they overcame him with overwhelming force than it would diminish his power in LOTR's. Audiences would question why couldn't the three of them have just trekked out to mordor and done the same. I thought it was enough to show galadriel face off against sauron and then he does a strategic retreat back to mordor with saruman being the one to keep an "eye" on him.


The flames of war are upon you..

(This post was edited by MouthofSauron on Sep 27 2015, 12:38am)


MouthofSauron
Tol Eressea


Sep 27 2015, 12:41am

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He reused the Dol Guldur shot of Gandy and Raddy on the sled towards DG, but in reverse and with the sled removed, and Gandy and Raddy's conversation via spells reused a shot and spell of Radagast from AUJ while never showing Gandy's mouth, as he's speaking the spell that heals Thorin on the Carrock. It's a bit of a mess... And I also think (haven't checked) that the shot of Gandy in his cage is just the DoS shot reversed too.

Didn't even realize that until you pointed it out and i've seen DOS like 15 times. Splitting hairs in my opinion and there was plenty of recycled footage throughout LOTR's.


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