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balbo biggins
Rohan
Sep 1 2015, 3:01am
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Beren and Luthien- A film that needs to be made. synopsis
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Its only a fools hope, but i think this would be an amazing middle earth film, and it needs to be standalone it is perfectly bookended from start to finish and can work on its own rather than get lost in the wider silmarillion stories, which, lets face ti would need a multimillion pound 9 film saga to do it justice! and i dont think it would be a commercial hit, especially if they stuck close to source, and any changes would just completely destroy the timelines and just get lost in itself.
so that aside ( for now) lets look at how tantalisingly epic this could be.I thought id write it out so people can if they are not familiar with the story get an idea of the major plot points.
SYNOPSIS
PROLOGUE
- A FOTR style prologue on the battle of sudden flame introducing Morgoth, Finrod, Barahir the oath, the ring and the lay of the lands.it would be epic.
BEGINNING
The betrayal of Barahir by Gorlim tricked by Sauron, Beren pursuing the orcs and recovering the ring of his father. Berens wanderings untill finally meeting and falling in love with Luthien. Thingol setting the task of Beren to regain a silmaril in exchange for Luthiens hand in marriage.
Beren recruits Finrod and his men in fulfilment of his oath to Barahir to go on the quest of the silmaril. introducing Celegorm and Curufin and the different elf realm. disguised as orcs they enter Morgoths realms (galadriel cameo also i think)
MIDDLE
Berens group captured by Sauron, thrown in dungeon tortured and almost all killed by werewolves, untill Finrod breaks his chains and manages to save Beren.
meanwhile Luthien following Beren is captured by Celegorm and Curufin and imprisoned, manages to escape in a rapunzel like fashion, meets and recruits the hound Huan they rescue Beren defeating Draugluiin and Sauron they free the other prisoners, Sauron flees as a vampire!
Beren and Luthien set about their task but are attacked by the now exiled Celegorm and Curufin, Luthien heals Beren after his act of heroism. disguised as the evil hound and the vampire bat they find Morgoth and put him to sleep,with luthiens song
Beren uses the knife to take a silmaril from Morgoths crown, he attempts to take the others but wakes Morgoth, they flee.but are attacked by the giant werewolf Carcharoth who bites off Berens hand but goes insane with the silmaril in his belly, eagles rescue Beren and Lluthien.
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Thingol grants Beren Luthiens hand in marriage, Beren and Huan go and kill the giant evil werewolf who is running wild destroying the land gone mad from the Silmaril.
Huan is killed, Beren delivers the Silmaril to Thingol but also dies. Luthien dies from grief. Luthien sings of here fate in the halls of mandos, still seperated from beren in death, Mandos is moved and grants them both life, and they live as mortals until there natural death.
Im sure ive got some of this wrong and have used secondry sources, and its late, but does this not seem perfect for a film? and there is so much interesting imagery to set this in, also having sauron and morgoth as tangible villains is exciting.
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Otaku-sempai
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Sep 1 2015, 12:26pm
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I wonder if the story of "Beren and Luthien" might work better as an opera. There is certainly enough tragedy in it. The same might be said of the "Tale of Turin".
But then I have also wondered if Michael Moorcock's Elric of Melnibone would work as a rock opera!
"At the end of the journey, all men think that their youth was Arcadia..." - Phantom F. Harlock
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Susan
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Sep 1 2015, 10:25pm
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I don't quite know how to describe it, but "Beren and Luthien" always had a sort of dramatic, dreamy, fantasy-ish quality that I associate with ballets. Especially the scene when Beren sees Luthien dancing in the woods for the first time. But it might be hard to get the audience to understand certain things without words.
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Otaku-sempai
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Sep 1 2015, 10:33pm
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But it might be hard to get the audience to understand certain things without words.
That presents a challenge anytime a complex dramatic story is attempted through interpretive dance.
"At the end of the journey, all men think that their youth was Arcadia..." - Phantom F. Harlock
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balbo biggins
Rohan
Sep 2 2015, 3:10am
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maybe it could have wagnerian themed music throughout, imagine morgoths theme! very fitting for tolkiens work!
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Otaku-sempai
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Sep 2 2015, 12:53pm
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Certainly the cosmology of Middle-earth owes as much to Norse mythology as it does to Catholocism (compare the Aesir/Vanir to the Ainur/Maiar/Valar). Melkor has his origins in Lucifer, but also in Loki.
On the other hand, Tolkien reportedly did not care for Wagner's interpretations of the Norse myths, so any Wagnerian influence on a Middle-earth opera should perhaps be minimal.
"At the end of the journey, all men think that their youth was Arcadia..." - Phantom F. Harlock
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balbo biggins
Rohan
Sep 2 2015, 1:12pm
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yes, im talking about just wagners music, ride of the valkyries would be an amazing escape from morgoths lair theme!
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Otaku-sempai
Immortal
Sep 2 2015, 1:45pm
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I would not directly borrow from Wagner. For one thing, it might be considered disrespectful to both Tolkien and Wagner. For another, the results might seem too much like parody.
Kill Gla-u-rung!
Kill Gla-u-rung!
Kill Gla-u-rung!
Kill the Dwagon (I mean, 'Dragon')!
"At the end of the journey, all men think that their youth was Arcadia..." - Phantom F. Harlock
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dreamflower
Lorien
Sep 2 2015, 3:42pm
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I think it would make a MAGNIFICENT opera! It's something I've suggested before, and honestly, I think an opera would stand more chance of getting the permission of the Estate than any film would.
Some people call it fanfiction. I call it story-internal literary criticism.
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dreamflower
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Sep 2 2015, 3:45pm
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I think I'd love to see it done by a Finnish composer.
Some people call it fanfiction. I call it story-internal literary criticism.
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