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swordwhale
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Sep 1 2015, 1:06am

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for knowing way more languages than me...

(I can mangle a few words in Spanish, Elvish, Hungarian, Sign, Chinese and almost remember how to count to ten in Japanese...)

Carry on and keep writing...

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(English is the weirdest language...
for instance: drive, drove, driven... is correct
however: dive, dove, diven, is right out)
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Mr. Arkenstone (isaac)
Tol Eressea

Sep 1 2015, 7:20am

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I dont understand why they didn´t eneter in such story arc [In reply to] Can't Post

The Denethor Palantir is very interesting thing. I find it wouldnt have been very hard to explain in a short scene that there was a palantir in minas tirith aswell.

But I feel this whole thing depends on how they managed the Voice of Saruman seuqnece in wich they messed up completely with the thing that minas tirith is going t obe attacked by the confusing phrase of Saruman: something festers in heart of middle earth...bla bla bla

In the book Gandalf knows not only that minas tirith is going to be attacked but the whole middle earth in the west and that makes it more apocaliptic to me

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moreorless
Gondor

Sep 1 2015, 2:38pm

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Almost certainly time [In reply to] Can't Post


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The Denethor Palantir is very interesting thing. I find it wouldnt have been very hard to explain in a short scene that there was a palantir in minas tirith aswell.

But I feel this whole thing depends on how they managed the Voice of Saruman seuqnece in wich they messed up completely with the thing that minas tirith is going t obe attacked by the confusing phrase of Saruman: something festers in heart of middle earth...bla bla bla

In the book Gandalf knows not only that minas tirith is going to be attacked but the whole middle earth in the west and that makes it more apocaliptic to me





I think its pretty clear that ROTK was being pushed heavily in terms of time given that it has to deal with progressively more and more characters introduced though the series. Book Denethor could have been very effective on screen but it would have taken time where as film Denethor was less subtle and easier to get a hold off in a relatively short time. Indeed I think you can see that Gondor generally is rather compressed compared to Rohan but really I don't see too much choice for Jackson in a three film adaptation.

I think the Saurman line makes sense he and Sauron have Palantirs even if Denethor doesn't and they use them to see his vanity and grief and knows this is a weakness that "festers at the heart of middle earth" because it weakens a key defensive position.


(This post was edited by moreorless on Sep 1 2015, 2:42pm)


NoelGallagher
Rohan


Sep 3 2015, 8:58am

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Gollum sneaking away to Shelobs Lair when Frodo and Sam are asleep at the stairs of Cirith Ungol.


Kangi Ska
Half-elven


Sep 15 2015, 1:42am

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"The DoS extended edition for example has this two seconds of Alfrid sneaking among the people of Lake Town, its not in the book I know, its only two seconds but here and there the movie gets enriched."

The Hobbit would have been a better movie without Alfrid. KS


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RomanGeneral
The Shire

Sep 24 2015, 7:06pm

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Is there a Super Extened LOTR in the works? [In reply to] Can't Post

Seriously, is there?

Someone below mentioned the soup scene from TTT. That was ridiculous and detracted from the grave nature of the film. On another thread, I pointed out that the handling of comic relief throughout the six films was often tasteless.

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