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Quotation source help, please?

Luthien Rising
Lorien


Aug 17 2015, 2:47pm

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Quotation source help, please? Can't Post

Hi all! I know I've been gone awhile, but I don't know a better place to find truly worthy people to help me solve a niggling problem in a manuscript.

These lines —

Still round the corner there may wait
A new road or a secret gate


— come from LOTR, Bk 6, Ch 9 (The Grey Havens). These lines —

The road goes ever on and on
Down from the door where it began.
Now far ahead the road has gone,
And I must follow, if I can,
Pursuing it with weary feet,
Until it joins some larger way,
Where many paths and errands meet.
And whither then? I cannot say.


— come from Bk I, ch. 3 (Three Is Company), though I'll ask my author if he'd prefer the ch. 1 version with "eager".

But this line —

(And on every footpath I take, I hear):

— where is that from?

~ Lú

Lúthien Rising
All we have to decide is what to do with the time that is given us. / We are all in the gutter, but some of us are looking at the stars.


Susan
Bree


Aug 17 2015, 5:08pm

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I can't find anything in Tolkien's works so far [In reply to] Can't Post

and I'll keep looking, but I stumbled across this:

"Like me, Tolkien clearly loved English paths. In The Lord of the Rings, which I read much later, he captured their seductive music...And on every footpath I take for the first time, I hear Bilbo's mysterious refrain: 'The road goes ever on and on...'"

This is from Susan Allen Toth's book, My Love Affair with England, and it might be what you're looking for.


squire
Half-elven


Aug 17 2015, 5:21pm

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I like the idea that a critic was commenting on Tolkien's 'Road' poetry [In reply to] Can't Post

I don't think Tolkien ever uses 'footpath'. He always uses 'path'. I bet from his perspective footpath is redundant.



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Luthien Rising
Lorien


Aug 17 2015, 5:32pm

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Thanks! [In reply to] Can't Post

That does, in fact, seem a likely source in this case.

Lúthien Rising
All we have to decide is what to do with the time that is given us. / We are all in the gutter, but some of us are looking at the stars.


Luthien Rising
Lorien


Aug 17 2015, 5:33pm

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Indeed// [In reply to] Can't Post

 

Lúthien Rising
All we have to decide is what to do with the time that is given us. / We are all in the gutter, but some of us are looking at the stars.


Elizabeth
Half-elven


Aug 17 2015, 5:45pm

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Nice to see you here, Lú! [In reply to] Can't Post

It's been a while!








Luthien Rising
Lorien


Aug 17 2015, 6:07pm

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I've thought of it at least? [In reply to] Can't Post

But then I'd just want to try to keep up in the Reading Room, and it takes me so long these days to get through leisure reading that I'd just end up frustrated.

But that's OT now :)

Lúthien Rising
All we have to decide is what to do with the time that is given us. / We are all in the gutter, but some of us are looking at the stars.


Bracegirdle
Valinor


Aug 17 2015, 6:58pm

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A quote from the movie not the book. . . [In reply to] Can't Post

Although he dips into some of the actual wording of Tolkien . . . - (is good!)


Quote
“PIPPIN: I didn't think it would end this way.

GANDALF: End? No, the journey doesn't end here. Death is just another path, one that we all must take. The grey rain-curtain of this world rolls back, and all turns to silver glass, and then you see it.

PIPPIN: What? Gandalf? See what?

GANDALF: White shores, and beyond, a far green country under a swift sunrise.

PIPPIN: Well, that isn't so bad.

GANDALF: No. No, it isn't.”

And I think Squire may be right with ‘footpath’ being redundant.

Boromir looked in surprise at Bilbo, but the laughter died on his lips when he saw that all the others regarded the old hobbit with grave respect. Only Glóin smiled, but his smile came from old memories.
-JRR Tolkien


Darkstone
Immortal


Aug 19 2015, 1:39pm

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Welcome back! / [In reply to] Can't Post

 

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That hobbit has a pleasant face,
His private life is a disgrace.
I really could not tell to you,
The awful things that hobbits do.
Things that your paper never prints
They only speak of them in hints.
They have such lost, degraded souls,
No wonder they inhabit holes;
When such depravity is found,
It only can live underground.
I really dare not name to you,
The awful things that hobbits do.

 
 

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