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lionoferebor
Rohan
Aug 13 2015, 9:27pm
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Let's talk about Fili's ear
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I was watching BOFA (TE) sometime ago and noticed that something is horribly wrong with Fili's left ear during his death scene. At first I thought my eyes were playing tricks on me, so I replayed the scene again, not once but twice - the second time in slow motion - and sure enough his ear is mutilated.
Here's a link to the image. WARNING SOME MAY FIND THIS IMAGE DIFFICULT TO VIEW. http://lionoferebor.tumblr.com/image/126575729482
I was able to get a snapshot of the image and posted it on my Instagram accounting asking my followers what they thought. One suggested it was probably a bad prosthetic. It seems like a reasonable explanation, however I have a difficult time believing the filmmakers, especially the make-up artist, (a) would not have noticed and (b) that anyone would allow filming to continue without replacing it. (These films have there share of problems but prosthetics/make-up is not one.)
Unless it has to do with - what I speculate - is missing part of Fili's death scene and PJ wanted his ear this way. If this is the case, in terms of story what in the name of Mahal did Azog do to his ear?
What are your thoughts?
(This post was edited by lionoferebor on Aug 13 2015, 9:33pm)
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Kilidoescartwheels
Valinor
Aug 13 2015, 9:40pm
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although honestly I'm having trouble seeing anything wrong here. I found this picture for comparison:
All I can see is that it's bloodied, which goes along with my theory that Fili DID put up a fight and was smacked in the head by something, likely Azog's mace. You're right, the makeup/prosthetic techs wouldn't have done that unless it was intentional. MAN, he looks like he's in pain in your picture
Proud member of the BOFA Denial Association
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DainPig
Gondor
Aug 13 2015, 10:01pm
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How aaaaaaaaaaaaaare you all???
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lionoferebor
Rohan
Aug 13 2015, 10:05pm
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our poor sweet, little ray of sunshine. UGH! It hurts just to look at the image. 
I'm not sure how to describe it, but to me his ear looks deformed - it's not as defined as the picture you show. Also it looks like it's coated in some kind if thick gooey substance...like mucus.
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Never_Underestimate_A_Dwarf
Rivendell
Aug 13 2015, 10:14pm
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I had some clear shots of this scene to reference. I never noticed (because I don't enjoy looking at it) but it looks like blood/hair matted to his ear.
I have noticed a few prosthetic issues (in the background only - one that comes to mind is where it looks like Dean's dwarf hand is coming off in DOS) but that's probably not the case here.
They wanted him to look beat up, and he does. Too bad we'll most likely never see what happened. I want to see him fight, but I also don't want to see him get hurt. 
Justice for Fili
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lionoferebor
Rohan
Aug 13 2015, 10:20pm
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he's forever messing with is hands in DOS. Especially when they are all waiting for their turn to meet Beorn.
I completely understand. I want to see him fight, but I don't want to see him get hurt...especially like that.
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CathrineB
Rohan
Aug 13 2015, 10:39pm
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I don't know. If there were a better shot maybe, but based on that one it's hard to tell. Could be the angle, could be the blood put on his face and hair, could be bad prostetics/coming off. Kinda looks melted, but... yeh. Hard to confirm it.
I also noticed on the ramparts when Bilbo says "You can't do this!" after Bard rides off back to Dale I think. There were a wider shot where you can see Fili in between Thorin and Dwalin. In a close up made by a fan I think you could tell his nose was fake because around the bend at the nostrils on the side it looks to be coming off.
(This post was edited by CathrineB on Aug 13 2015, 10:41pm)
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Avandel
Half-elven
Aug 13 2015, 11:05pm
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RA did say that *cough* if too much alcohol had been imbibed the night before, it tended to encourage stuff to slide by mid-day - plus the heat and so on...I noticed in DOS where Ken Stott is talking to Bilbo in the tunnel at Erebor, as one point the side of his nose looks like it is peeling or bubbling up a bit, in a few shots - I mean it's hardly noticeable but it's there - kind of crusty for a few seconds.
I just can't figure out since they were CGI-ing stuff anyway, why certain things are missed in the editing process - it's no big deal bust still - if you are sitting a few feet from a screen editing, how do you miss a messed-up prosthetic?
Re the OP post - I can't tell, here.
Hó , Það sé ég föður minn
Hó , Það sé ég móður mína, og Hó, Það sé ég bræður mínir og systur mínar
Hó , Það sé ég mitt fólk aftur í byrjun
Hó, gera Þeir kalla til mín, og bjóða mér að taka minn stað meðal þeirra í sölum Valhallar
Hvar hugrakkir mun lifa að eilífu
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CathrineB
Rohan
Aug 13 2015, 11:07pm
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It really could be melting though. I have been on sets and some of those lamps can get incredibly hot to a point its unbearable to stay close to.
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Never_Underestimate_A_Dwarf
Rivendell
Aug 13 2015, 11:14pm
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I've noticed that Fili's nose seems to look different at times in BOTFA, specifically Ravenhill. I attributed it to the lighting/color (I think it looks terrible, personally - too much fake fog) but in the scene where Thorin tells Fili to scout, his nose looks...off. And it might just be the lighting and angle, because I can't see them botching the prosthetics up. Unless they said "oh, it's just Fili. No one will notice."
Justice for Fili
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Ilmatar
Rohan
Aug 14 2015, 10:20am
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The link to the image: "The URL you requested could not be found."
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Ilmatar
Rohan
Aug 18 2015, 12:17am
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.,..For the link. His ear does look a little off, but the perspective may effect it too as his head is in an angle and chin lifted up - and since dwarf ears seem bigger in proportion to the head than human ears, it can extend further "down" when seen from this angle. I can imagine ears falling victim to a sword or something, in a battle like this, like it was partly sliced off...
But what a painful picture. Makes you just want to grab him, take him back behind Erebor's walls and offer him some mead while healers work on him.
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