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Kilidoescartwheels
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Aug 6 2015, 12:39am
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So, about that chariot scene
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So in another post it was reported that the BOT5A EE will only have an additional 19 minutes of footage. Personally I don't buy that, but time will tell. Anyway, one possibility is that PJ might redo some scenes that were in the TE, or even omit them altogether (here's hoping he cuts out some Alfrid ). That made me think about the ice chariot scene from the first trailer. If it's included then I believe they will omit the Thorin & Nephews & Dwalin charging up Ravenhill on battle rams. The reason is because Dwalin, Fili & Kili are clearly in the ice chariot. I know I've mentioned this before, and some have pointed out a destroyed chariot on the battlefield. Well sure, but I don't think it's the same one, since Dwalin was driving the chariot up the frozen river, nowhere near the battlefield. And I always thought Thorin went up to Ravenhill alone, since he's standing there on the edge of the frozen waterfall by himself. He definitely wasn't in the chariot. So the only way this makes sense to me is, Thorin hops on a battle ram & goes off by himself, then Fili, Kili & Dwalin commandeer a chariot & go after him. Unfortunately, if I'm right then we'll lose that awesome battle roll Fili does when he jumps off his battle ram. But I guess we can't have it all, can we?
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Never_Underestimate_A_Dwarf
Rivendell
Aug 6 2015, 12:54am
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That scene is very poorly edited. All of a sudden they're riding rams, it's so abrupt. This could fix it.
But isn't Balin on the chariot as well? Where does he go?
They better not get rid of the Fili roll, it's one of my favorite parts.
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Pandallo
Rivendell
Aug 6 2015, 1:01am
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The Weta Chronicles Book says that Thorin puts him in charge of the Dwarf armies once they reach Ravenhill. It's also mentioned that Balin is slightly wounded somewhere in the course of battle, but not enough to debilitate him...
Whether this will be in the movie or not, heaven only knows.
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Spriggan
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Aug 6 2015, 9:40am
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How could they get up Ravenhill in a chariot?
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Smaug the iron
Gondor
Aug 6 2015, 9:57am
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After Thorin and Dain talked and Thorin jumps on the ram and is on its way to Ravenhill, Balin, Dwalin, Fili and Kili are on the chariot and getting attacked by wargs the chariot gets broken and Dwalin, Fili and Kili takes the remaining rams and follows Thorin.
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Númenórean
The Shire
Aug 6 2015, 5:37pm
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[Image way too big]
(This post was edited by Altaira on Aug 7 2015, 2:11pm)
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QuackingTroll
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Aug 6 2015, 5:40pm
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Is that before the dwarves join the battle?!
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How does that play out? Maybe there are more chariots? 
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Kilidoescartwheels
Valinor
Aug 6 2015, 7:13pm
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But there's no reason to think Dain only brought one, and since it was clearly destroyed BEFORE Thorin & the Company came out, it can't be the same chariot.
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Númenórean
The Shire
Aug 6 2015, 7:30pm
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Is only a curiosity 
Maybe Dain bring more than one chariot with the dwarven ballistas and battle rams.
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Kilidoescartwheels
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Aug 6 2015, 9:18pm
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At least it explains the loose battle rams
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that just conveniently showed up in the TE.
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Altaira
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Aug 7 2015, 2:14pm
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Could you please re-post your image?
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...in a smaller size, or link to where people can see the larger pic? Thanks!
From the TORn FAQ on the Welcome board:
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Altaira
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Aug 7 2015, 6:06pm
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Koru: Maori symbol representing a fern frond as it opens. The koru reaches towards the light, striving for perfection, encouraging new, positive beginnings.
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Chariot destroyed
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