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DainPig
Gondor
Jun 16 2015, 2:29pm
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Fili's beheading on the EE
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I heard once on the The One Ring a news about Spoiler from BOTFA. So, here's the link:
http://www.theonering.net/torwp/2014/12/01/95295-big-hobbit-movie-spoilers-from-the-five-armies-chronicles-art-and-design-book/
Fili beheaded? I can't wait 
How aaaaaaaaaaaaaare you all???
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Shagrat
Gondor
Jun 16 2015, 2:33pm
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I'm hardly prudish, but even I think that would be grossly over the top and unnecessary. Save the violence for Orcs.
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Never_Underestimate_A_Dwarf
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Jun 16 2015, 2:43pm
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This was never going to be used, it was just an idea. Fili keeps his head. Let's not spread this disturbing rumor any further.
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Defiant
Bree
Jun 16 2015, 8:41pm
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It was never even an idea as far as I can tell. I have that book and there is NO mention of Fili being beheaded. The book does say that Azog threw Fili's body off the cliff, and I assume that the original rumour poster for some reason took that to mean headless body, but we know from watching the film that wasn't the case and there's no mention of a decapitation in the book. Dude was simply wrong. It's a rumour with no basis.
(This post was edited by Defiant on Jun 16 2015, 8:43pm)
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Defiant
Bree
Jun 16 2015, 8:48pm
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Here is the exact quote from the book:
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Here's the only bit in the book pertaining to Fili's death ...
'In the course of the battle Fili would find himself separated and alone inside the Ravenhill ruin, where Azog and his bodyguards capture him. Within sight of Thorin and Kili, who are both too far away to help, the young Dwarf is killed by the pale Orc, who discards Fili’s body over the edge of the broken balcony.'
Alan Lee, Concept Art Director
Somehow the original rumour starter got the impression of a beheading from that quote, but that is never said. Let's put this bit of nonsense to bed once and for all.
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CathrineB
Rohan
Jun 16 2015, 10:29pm
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I never ever ever eeeever want to see that. It's too much. I was surprised they showed Thror's beheaded... well, head. I think it'll be fifteen times worse for it to be Fili. No way. Over the top. His death was hard to watch as it is because of the cruelty of it.
Also, think of the funeral scene. It's just too grotesque to show the body and no head or the head seperated. Extra work too that will do no one good.
Just no.
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Defiant
Bree
Jun 16 2015, 10:52pm
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Yeah, like I wrote, it was never going to happen.
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It was a nonsense rumour from the start.
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lonelymountainhermit
Lorien
Jun 16 2015, 11:06pm
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The book doesn't mention anything about dwarf/elf love triangles or elves flying on bats either, so it's a possibility.
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Defiant
Bree
Jun 16 2015, 11:10pm
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By book, I mean The Chronicles book ...
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... that this rumour was sourced supposedly from. The original runmour was an early report from Chronicles V. I have it. There's no mention of the beheading, as per the quoted passage above.
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lonelymountainhermit
Lorien
Jun 16 2015, 11:14pm
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I don't see how they would get a beheading from that quote. Probably just wishful thinking from a hardcore PJ fan. But still, I wouldn't be shocked if the rumor was true.
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DainPig
Gondor
Jun 16 2015, 11:25pm
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Who created this rumour?
How aaaaaaaaaaaaaare you all???
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Never_Underestimate_A_Dwarf
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Jun 16 2015, 11:29pm
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Why would anyone WANT that to happen?
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Or just someone with a sick and twisted mind. Although now that you mention it, the thought probably crossed PJ's mind once or twice. They were considering drowning Kili at one point, and since they didn't care about Fili, I can see it being at least brought up.
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lonelymountainhermit
Lorien
Jun 16 2015, 11:38pm
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However, many of the movie fans aren't overly concerned with faithfulness to the book, and don't mind PJ's over-the-top alterations.
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lionoferebor
Rohan
Jun 17 2015, 2:56am
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I know someone who has a friend who works with WETA...they said they had tossed this idea around, but it was never filmed. And if it was why wouldyou want to see it?
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Glorfindela
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Jun 17 2015, 9:20am
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There are many rumours and speculations propagated about these films – often over-complicating some original scene, or emphasising someone's desire for something to be the case (or not) in an existing or imagined scene that is alleged to have been shot. It's not difficult for a rumour to be started, then accepted as fact.
Who created this rumour?
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