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Hobbity Hobbit
Lorien
Jun 15 2015, 8:05pm
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Erebor Theme appears briefly in "Shelob the Great"
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https://www.youtube.com/...t=PL00F32DF9392A2667
@4:20, You can hear the beginning of the Erebor Theme
I'm guessing it was unintentional, but it would be cool if it wasn't!
"As the snowflakes cover my fallen brothers,
I will say this last goodbye."
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Otaku-sempai
Immortal
Jun 15 2015, 9:04pm
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It would have to be a coincidence. The "Erebor Theme" did not yet exist and would be based on a piece composed by someone other than Howard Shore.
"At the end of the journey, all men think that their youth was Arcadia..." - Phantom F. Harlock
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Lindele
Gondor
Jun 15 2015, 9:13pm
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That Shore didn't compose the Erebor theme?
Just curious...as far as I knew he composed everything but the Misty Mountains theme...
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Hobbity Hobbit
Lorien
Jun 15 2015, 9:54pm
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It is at 4:20 in "Shelob the Great"
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From The Hobbit at 2:05 in The Darkest Hour, there are different variations, I just can't find them right now. There is one that ends with the same note, I'll go get it after dinner.
The Darkest Hour: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nujtzcOI4ew
"As the snowflakes cover my fallen brothers,
I will say this last goodbye."
(This post was edited by Hobbity Hobbit on Jun 15 2015, 9:55pm)
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redgiraffe
Rohan
Jun 15 2015, 11:30pm
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That definitely sounds like the Erebor theme to me. Interesting!
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Bombadil
Half-elven
Jun 16 2015, 1:49am
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Some ANCIENT History for Ya About
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Mister Shore...Somewhere deep in your LOTR
behind the scenes disc..PJ States
"I wanted to Hire Howard because of his work on "The Fly"
I want somethin' like that for SHELOB...."
{Hire Date, sometime in the Late 1990's}
SSOoo..that Creepy, crawling, freakiy, slimy
INSECT Monster Motif
is part of Howard for
EVER..
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Bofur01
Lorien
Jun 16 2015, 6:41am
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Apart from the fact that it's Thorin's theme, yes!
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The Erebor theme is the six notes at 3:57 in "The Clouds Burst" Thorin's theme can also be head as the ending section of the Misty Mountains theme in "Over Hill", at 3:16.
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Otaku-sempai
Immortal
Jun 16 2015, 11:14am
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Am I thinking of the wrong track?
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I think I confused the Erebor theme with the instrumental for "Misty Mountains" (based on "Song of the Lonely Mountain" composed by Neil Finn). For some reason I was thinking that they were the same.
"At the end of the journey, all men think that their youth was Arcadia..." - Phantom F. Harlock
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Bofur01
Lorien
Jun 16 2015, 11:50am
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The Erebor theme is all over the place in the soundtrack, but it's quite a simple 6-note theme, heard at the timestamp I posted above it "the clouds burst" but also when Erebor is first seen in AUJ.
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Old Pilgrim
Rivendell
Jun 16 2015, 4:58pm
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Very good observation but there's more!
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It seems Gandalf the Gray theme we heard throghout the Hobbit trilogy originates from Return of the King, more precisely Ash and Smoke where can be heard in much more powerful version;
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_d6DJZBTPQE - Gandalf's theme from the Hobbit could be heard right at the beginning
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6tAd0ne7PKI - similar theme though in more energetic version can be heard at 2:56 when Gandalf takes command of Gondorian soldiers.
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AshNazg
Gondor
Jun 16 2015, 5:07pm
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Or just on the OST?
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Bofur01
Lorien
Jun 16 2015, 5:07pm
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Thorin's theme is derived from the music when Gandalf sees the map of Erebor in FotR as well //
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dormouse
Half-elven
Jun 16 2015, 5:34pm
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But... if it's Gandalf's theme....
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..wouldn't you expect to hear in in the previous films as well? Shouldn't it be there, as it's still him?
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Bofur01
Lorien
Jun 16 2015, 7:31pm
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There never really was one in LotR...
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I think the reason Howard Shore gave was that Gandalf wasn't getting involved as much, but was more pulling the strings, whereas he really intervenes in the Hobbit, so they wrote him a theme, I guess based on that bit of music?
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