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** 'The Fellowship of the Ring' book II, ch. 9-3, 'The Great River': 'The last stage of the Quest was before them'
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sador
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Jun 25 2015, 4:42pm

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… they are wayward if mishandled.

What does that even mean? You have to pet them and say nice things to them? You have to dry them off with soft flannel every night and sing them to sleep? When you handle them you must use the expression “If you please” for the particularly gentlemanly tone it implants?







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Why does he agree to stay with them until the Tindrock?
Going there anyway. Might as well take credit for altruism.

Was he? I thought he was suggesting not looking for the portage-way, and heading direct West.
That way, he could run across Snaga, who would be scared there was another lone traveller in Rohan, and get really frightened.



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I wonder if Boromir made it past Pelargir without being stripped naked? I wouldn’t put it past the corsairs painting a funny face on his tummy or writing “Oh, dear/ the long career/ of Boromir/ doth end I fear” on his forehead.


That explains why they were so afraid of the Army of the Dead.
Aragorn was nothing; but the dead Boromir had a grudge.



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Men were just too dang tall. The Men had to force a path for the passage of themselves, the wizard, and The Elf. If it was just Gimli and the hobbits they could have saved a lot of effort and just tunneled through to freedom.


So he just added another 70 kilos to the exhausted-already Bill.
If you're a passenger, you might as well travel in style.



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Notice he didn’t dare say it until The Dwarf was asleep. At least Boromir isn’t suicidal.

Smile
One in a family is enough.



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Either principled skepticism or self-interested denialism.
That is, it depends on the observer.

Agreed.



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But what if Denethor wasn’t? Would Boromir go against his father, the current legitimate ruler of Gondor who already has the precedent of the Council of Gondor against Arvedui's claim, and thus Aragorn’s claim?


I don't think he's planning so far.





sador
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Jun 25 2015, 4:56pm

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So here is an easy one: where does the thread title come from?

http://newboards.theonering.net/..._leadership!_P481646


Yes, I remembered using it before. But that's not an answer.



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It’s pretty much assumed. I mean, what else are you going to do with a chair?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Qxu5cvW-ds



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Doesn't the end of the chapter contradict Aragorn's suggestion that they could take to the water again below Rauros?
Well, Aragorn pretty much proves to Boromir that they can, albeit posthumously.

Boromir took to the water above Rauros. I don't think Aragorn would have carried him down the Northren Stair, but you can never know with Rangers.



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I’m thinking he let Legolas go on and verify the trail while he crouched in the mist to see if he could catch Boromir grabbing for the Ring.

And Boromir caught him, of course. Hence "I am a honest man, neither thief nor tracker" in the next tracker.



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More riddle than question: how are both Isildur and Anárion Aragorn's sires?
He claims both Arnor and Gondor.


Which returns to my question, essentially.



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One really doesn’t just decide to be King. One simply Is. It’s kinda like puberty: You wake up one morning and you’ve have changed, like a caterpillar into a butterfly.

Like Richard III woke up and found that somebody was preaching his nephews were actually bastards.



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A little Madness in the Spring
Is wholesome even for the King


The Hatter tried that tack when called to give testimony, and the Queen wouldn't even let him finish his bread-and-butter.


It's always fun with you around!


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