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Howard Shore Appreciation (The Hobbit and LOTR)
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Hobbity Hobbit
Lorien


Jun 7 2015, 1:52pm

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Howard Shore is a great soundtrack writer and he hasn't been getting much recognition these days.

So these are my favorite Howard Shore Soundtracks in Category:

Epic
"Parth Galen"
"Misty Mountains"
"Sons of Durin"
"Last March of the Ents"
"The Battle of Pelennor Fields"

Emotional
"The Eagles"
"The Departure of Boromir"
"Courage and Wisdom"
"Lament for Haldir"
"Mithril"
"Feast of Starlight"

Folkish/Magical
"The Passing of the Elves"
"Arwen's Song"
"Kingsfoil"
"Aniron"
"Feast of Starlight"
"Beyond the Forest"
"Dreaming of the Shire"
"Concerning Hobbits"

"As the snowflakes cover my fallen brothers,
I will say this last goodbye."


Smaug the iron
Gondor

Jun 7 2015, 2:15pm

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Epic
same +
The Bridge Of Khazad-dum
Minas Morgul
Over Hill
A Spell of Concealment ( Saurons part)

Emotional
Same +
Fire and Water ( Bard and Bains them)
The Breaking Of The Fellowship
the Steward of Gondor

Folkish/Magical
same


Bombadil
Half-elven


Jun 7 2015, 2:15pm

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it may have another
Title on HS's list...

BUT..Can't find it right Now.
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SafeUnderHill
Rohan

Jun 7 2015, 2:17pm

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Great thread! [In reply to] Can't Post

I've been really into the music lately, it's sad there will be no more middle earth scores - but we've got some more music to come with the BOTFA EE!

These are my picks (I'll just to the Hobbit soundtracks for now, since I'm most familiar with whats in each track for them):

Epic
"The Hunters"
"Mithril"
"Bred for War"
"Battle for the Mountain"
"Ironfoot"

Emotional
"Girion, Lord of Dale"/'The Hunters" (House of Durin theme)
"Beyond the Forest"
"The Darkest Hour" (the emotion is incredible in this one!)
"Courage and Wisdom"
"The Return Journey"

Folkish/Magical
"Beyond the Forest"
"Thrice Welcome"


Smaug the iron
Gondor

Jun 7 2015, 2:22pm

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of the films is Parth Galen in.


SafeUnderHill
Rohan

Jun 7 2015, 3:07pm

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of the films is Parth Galen in.


I think it's part of the Amon Hen scene.


SafeUnderHill
Rohan

Jun 7 2015, 3:08pm

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Add "On the Doorstep" to emotional! Such gorgeous music as they enter Erebor again. Combined with Balin's performance it makes for one of DOS's best scenes.


Smaug the iron
Gondor

Jun 7 2015, 3:14pm

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Hobbity Hobbit
Lorien


Jun 7 2015, 3:55pm

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Yes, it is. [In reply to] Can't Post

It's the Battle Scene, until right before Boromir gets hit with the arrow.

"As the snowflakes cover my fallen brothers,
I will say this last goodbye."


Hobbity Hobbit
Lorien


Jun 7 2015, 4:04pm

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Its' called The White Tree on the RoTK Theatrical Soundtrack. It's called The Lighting of the Beacons on the RoTK CR I think too.

Would anyone happen to know if the heavy violin after the Gollum Scene outside of the Goblin Caves is called, a bit before (or possibly during) Gandalf's count of the dwarves. I also like the one where Elrond decides to reforge Narsil, I believe its' called The Grace of Undomiel

"As the snowflakes cover my fallen brothers,
I will say this last goodbye."


Bofur01
Lorien


Jun 7 2015, 4:12pm

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The violin bit... If I'm right in thinking... [In reply to] Can't Post

You mean the bit as Bilbo runs out of the Misty Mountains and down after the dwarves, is tracked from the end of "The Hill of Sorcery" at 3:22, with a few instruments removed.


SafeUnderHill
Rohan

Jun 7 2015, 4:14pm

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You're referring to the music that also plays when Radagast escapes from Dol Guldur on his sledge. This piece was also used in the film for Bilbo running out of the caves, but it wasn't written for that scene.

Listen to "3:22" of The Hill of Sorcery from the AUJ special edition soundtrack. Is this what you're referring to?


SafeUnderHill
Rohan

Jun 7 2015, 4:14pm

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You beat me to it!


Hobbity Hobbit
Lorien


Jun 7 2015, 4:31pm

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the part when they're saying that they were abandoned by the hobbit, and it was somewhat solemn. I was looking for that part to though, thanks!

"As the snowflakes cover my fallen brothers,
I will say this last goodbye."


Bofur01
Lorien


Jun 7 2015, 4:51pm

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Here we go... One from each film. [In reply to] Can't Post

Epic

Khazad-Dum
The Three Hunters
Osgiliath Invaded
Roast Mutton
My Armour is Iron
Ironfoot

Emotional

The Departure of Boromir
Last March of the Ents
The Sacrifice of Faramir
Misty Mountains
Beyond the Forest
The Darkest Hour

Folkish/Magical

Caras Galadhon
The Host of the Eldar
The Battle of the Pelennor Fields
The World is Ahead
Thrice Welcome
Guardians of the Three


SafeUnderHill
Rohan

Jun 7 2015, 4:52pm

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I think that bit is after when "Gandalf's count of the dwarves".

The music your referring to has not yet been released on any soundtracks. We're hoping there will be Complete Recordings for the Hobbit scores so can have these pieces.

There is different music on the album for the same scene (presumably an earlier piece of music that was later replaced during rescoring sessions). You can hear it here http://www.jwfan.com/...c=23483&p=935059 at 6:51 of Brass Buttons Test 1 (just scroll down a little bit, it's in the post I linked to), its got some lovely humming!


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CathrineB
Rohan


Jun 8 2015, 12:20am

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I'm too lazy to look up all the songs now so I'm likely to forget some Laugh

Lord of the Rings
Forth Eorlings (Epic)
Rohan's theme (got that chilling historic feeling to it)
Ride of the Rohirrim (and the charge on Pelennor) (Most epic)
Evenstar (Magical)
Shadowfax (Magical)
Gandalf Falls (Tragic)
End of All Things (Epic)
The Breaking of the Fellowship (my favorite omg)
A Journey in the Dark (at least when the music just swells and everything is goosebumps and amazing!)
The Black Gate Opens (WOW)

There is no soundtrack like this. Never will be. There is so much work and heart put into this I can never express how much I love LotR's soundtracks. It is truly one of a kind.

The Hobbit
Ironfoot (It's a great shame the bag pipes are not in the movie! It's the best part)
Sons of Durin (Epic level so high)
Feasts of Starlight (Really beautiful)
An Unexpected Party (Quirky)
Over Hill (epic)

The Hobbit lacked a lot compare to the amount of themes and songs I love in LotR, but I think BotfA got better on that end. In general I love all/most versions of the Durins' theme.


CathrineB
Rohan


Jun 8 2015, 12:41am

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The Return Journey and Mithril. Such a gorgeous little moment at the start of the Mithril song and epic at the end.

Also I dont remember if its on the Rotk soundtrack anywhere but that amazing flute playing when Faramir asks Denethor if hed rather have Boromir alive. WOW.


Doug Adams
Bree

Jun 10 2015, 2:23am

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Hope we can add to everyone's appreciation of this marvelous music in the near future!

Wink

Doug Adams


SafeUnderHill
Rohan

Jun 10 2015, 11:47am

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Yes please! Looking forwards to anything that will prolong then end of Shore's middle earth score releases :)


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Hobbity Hobbit
Lorien


Jun 10 2015, 11:55am

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Shocked

I guess I have something else other than the Battle of the Five Armies Extended Edition to look forward to!

By the way, I don't know if you can answer this, but what was the theme in Out of the Frying Pan at 3:30-4:18? I like it, I think it appeared in the AUJ soundtrack a couple of times, but only for a few seconds in the movie.

"As the snowflakes cover my fallen brothers,
I will say this last goodbye."


Doug Adams
Bree

Jun 10 2015, 2:50pm

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That section begins with a location-based theme that relates to the trees, then moves into a sort of non-thematic fanfare for the Dwarves. Neither actually reappears in the subsequent scores--though the Pines bit appears a few times in AUJ. Some glorious writing in that sequence!

Doug


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Shocked

I guess I have something else other than the Battle of the Five Armies Extended Edition to look forward to!

By the way, I don't know if you can answer this, but what was the theme in Out of the Frying Pan at 3:30-4:18? I like it, I think it appeared in the AUJ soundtrack a couple of times, but only for a few seconds in the movie.



SafeUnderHill
Rohan

Jun 10 2015, 4:59pm

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Now that you called the music a "non-thematic fanfare for the Dwarves", I've just noticed the similarity between its opening phrases and Thorin's theme!


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SafeUnderHill
Rohan

Jun 10 2015, 5:25pm

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3:42 - sounds like Thorin's figure
3:50 - sounds like the dwarven figure that recurs a lot (four notes that play after the Erebor theme, at the end of some Thorin's theme statements, and near the middle of the DOS intro sequence)

Ohh this figure is CBAB, somewhat similar in shape to the Minas Tirith theme CBGA.

I love noticing things like this, even if they turn out not to be intended connection!a


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Aragorn the Elfstone
Tol Eressea


Jun 10 2015, 8:38pm

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This one could listen to "The Lighting of the Beacons" all day, everyday.

Cool

"The danger with any movie that does as well as this one does is that the amount of money it's making and the number of awards that it's got becomes almost more important than the movie itself in people's minds. I look at that as, in a sense, being very much like the Ring, and its effect on people. You know, you can kind of forget what we were doing, if you get too wrapped up in that."
- Viggo Mortensen

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