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Who is going to crown Dain?

DainPig
Gondor


Jun 2 2015, 4:18pm

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Who is going to crown Dain? Can't Post

I think the better character to crown Dain Ironfoot is Balin! Like Gandalf crowned Aragorn in RotK!


AshNazg
Gondor


Jun 2 2015, 4:21pm

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I imagine he'd crown himself [In reply to] Can't Post

Grab the crown, sit on the throne and shout "Alright, ye b******* I'm yer king now!" Tongue


Otaku-sempai
Immortal


Jun 2 2015, 6:40pm

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Will we even see a coronation? [In reply to] Can't Post

Prof. Tolkien skipped over the crowning of Dain (not that that would stop Peter Jackson). It's more important, I think, to see Dain as King under the Mountain than to witness his coronation.

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dormouse
Half-elven


Jun 2 2015, 6:51pm

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They certainly considered showing it.... [In reply to] Can't Post

It's mentioned in the BoFA Chronicles book. But so are a lot of other ideas that didn't make it into the film, so that doesn't prove anything either way.


Darkstone
Immortal


Jun 2 2015, 7:38pm

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How Napoleonic! [In reply to] Can't Post

As opposed to Pope Leo III tiptoeing up behind a praying Charlemagne and (surprise!!) plopping a crown on his head. (Though I can see Gandalf pulling it off.)

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Bombadil
Half-elven


Jun 2 2015, 8:22pm

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IT Better Be BALIN or BOMBY will Bummed..?/// [In reply to] Can't Post

 

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Bombadil
Half-elven


Jun 2 2015, 11:36pm

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The SOUND @ the FUNERAL could be [In reply to] Can't Post

Very Fullfilling...Tear inducing...Spectacularly Whoa-full..

Bomby is Hoping it is a
Bone-Chilling...
MASSIVE
Maori Men's Chorus
.. a sorta
Dwarvish "Gregorian Chant"...Like "Carmina Burana" !!

Now, this could have been Held Back from US
once it was Decided
the Funeral was such a Huge Scene..

We might not have been able to
PRY Ourselves Out Of Our
SEATS...
as we melt onto the Floor.
...a puddle...

Destroyed by the
Durin's
Deaths ...

WE can Hope
can't we?
Crazy

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Gianna
Rohan


Jun 3 2015, 1:06am

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Yes - if they show the coronation, Balin MUST crown Dain! // [In reply to] Can't Post

 

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Arannir
Valinor


Jun 3 2015, 8:00am

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If anyone, then Balin, yes. [In reply to] Can't Post

Or Dain himself (that might actually work the best).


However, I think his coronation or coming coronation should just be mentioned, as well as Bard's role as new leader.

The focus should be on the funeral at which all these things can be mentioned.



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We all have our hearts and minds one way or another invested in these books and movies. So we all mind and should show the necessary respect.



Elarie
Grey Havens

Jun 3 2015, 12:26pm

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Interesting question [In reply to] Can't Post

We don't really have any information from Tolkien about this do we? So I guess if the coronation were to be shown the film makers could do whatever felt best for the movie and since Balin is a much-loved elder figure and since the dwarves don't appear to have anything comparable to an Archbishop of Canterbury, Balin would be a good choice.

It would work politically, too, since Balin is next in line to the throne after Dain and his son, so for Balin to crown Dain would be a public statement that he accepts Dain as King.

In human societies, at least, it's always a good thing when the person next in line publicly accepts the new king and swears fealty - it makes the new king a lot less nervous. Smile I'm currently reading a book about the 19th century exploration of Africa and the search for the sources of the Nile, and one of the people mentioned is a king who immediately killed 60 of his brothers as soon as he took the throne - I guess that's another way for a king to sleep easily at night. Shocked

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Otaku-sempai
Immortal


Jun 3 2015, 3:31pm

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Balin [In reply to] Can't Post

If there is a coronation then Balin should perform it, giving the action more legitimacy. Unless you are Conan the Cimmerian, crowning yourself is just tacky!

"At the end of the journey, all men think that their youth was Arcadia..." - Phantom F. Harlock

 
 

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