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Faramir74
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Jun 1 2015, 7:50pm
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Witch King at Dol Goldur - EE?
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I am really hoping to see more of the Nazgul, in particular the Witch-king, during the Dol Goldur sequence in the EE version.
Why do I say this? If I'm not mistaken he is included in the Lego DG set. It is the WK voice who recites the Ring poem. And don't forget that the entire DG scene is quite choppy from beginning to end, which makes me think there is more to see of The Nine before the battle.
Of course I could be completely off the mark with my assumption and the only extra Dol Goldur sequence is the Three Rings and/or a Palantir scene. Here's hoping!
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Smaug the iron
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Jun 1 2015, 8:03pm
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it is Saruons voice who saying the ring poem
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Bombadil
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Jun 1 2015, 8:28pm
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WE did see him & Radagast took his Blade
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early in AUJ...Now how he gets it BACK..?
is the real question that hasn't been shown.
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Faramir74
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Jun 1 2015, 8:50pm
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That's a good question Bomby.
However, it raises several answers: when he stabs Frodo on Weathertop is it with A Morgul blade or THE Morgul blade? How were all the Nazgul re-equipped for the Dol Goldur battle? Or is that how they were buried in their armour?
Perhaps the blade is stolen or lost from Radagast when he arrives at Dol Goldur.
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Bombadil
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Jun 1 2015, 9:31pm
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It's the same Blade that stabbed Frodo.
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That was confirmed a long time ago...
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DainPig
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Jun 1 2015, 10:57pm
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The Witchy-King appears for a moment, in the front of the others Nazgul.
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Mooseboy018
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Jun 2 2015, 2:52am
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I'm pretty sure someone (PJ or Philippa Boyens) said that there was a scene shot showing how the Witch King got the Morgul blade back. The entire Dol Guldur sequence felt incredibly truncated. I'm hoping they give it some much needed attention in the extended cut. Not just to have more material, but to fix the pacing and remove that terrible reused shot of Radagast...
It's been confirmed that there will be new Dol Guldur stuff, which involves Sauron's interest in the Three Elf Rings, so hopefully there's other stuff too.
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AshNazg
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Jun 2 2015, 3:41pm
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Did you know it's NOT the Witch King that attacks Radagast in AUJ?
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In AUJ, a wraith appears and attacks Radagast with the Morgul Blade, and we all assume it's the Witch King.
BUT, if you compare this wraith with the Witch King in Fellowship of the Ring, you can see by the crown that it's actually the Nazgúl stood to the Witch King's right when Frodo gets stabbed. According to the card game this is Khamul.
In the books Khamul commanded Dol Guldur after Sauron was driven out. He repeatedly attacked Lorien and Thranduil's Halls before Galadriel and Thranduil joined forces to drive Khamul out and destroy the fortress. Spin off movie anyone?
(This post was edited by AshNazg on Jun 2 2015, 3:42pm)
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ThorinsNemesis
Lorien
Jun 2 2015, 3:46pm
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I think PJ confirmed it was the Witchking, but they changed his crown to look like Khamul's, for reasons unknown.
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Arannir
Valinor
Jun 3 2015, 8:10am
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Probably Khamul had the "cooler" crown.
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So why not change it... and change the helmet (probably one of the most recognizable helmets ever created for the movies, but who cares?!) of the Witch-King while you are at it.
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We all have our hearts and minds one way or another invested in these books and movies. So we all mind and should show the necessary respect.
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ThorinsNemesis
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Jun 3 2015, 8:45am
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When the Nazgul appear all in front of the Great Eye in BOTFA, is the one at the foremost the Witchking? If yes, they might have changed his helmet because it was made during the War of the Ring, he most likely wore a different helmet when ruling Angmar.
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Arannir
Valinor
Jun 3 2015, 8:47am
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I know that there are logical reasons for it...
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... personally, however, I would have just gone with the RotK design.
(Btw: I know this is nit-picking... it is not one of the things that actually make me dislike the movie.)
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We all have our hearts and minds one way or another invested in these books and movies. So we all mind and should show the necessary respect.
(This post was edited by Arannir on Jun 3 2015, 8:49am)
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ThorinsNemesis
Lorien
Jun 3 2015, 8:49am
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would have raised critics among Tolkien fans, saying the helmet was made during the War of the Ring and it would have been a lore violation according to them. Personally I find the look of the Nazgul in BOTFA interesting.
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Arannir
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Jun 3 2015, 8:51am
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I like their general look, as well.
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"I am afraid it is only too likely to be true what you say about the critics and the public. I am dreading the publication for it will be impossible not to mind what is said. I have exposed my heart to be shot at." J.R.R. Tolkien
We all have our hearts and minds one way or another invested in these books and movies. So we all mind and should show the necessary respect.
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