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Smaug the iron
Gondor
Apr 22 2015, 1:58pm
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The return journey.
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Which return journey did you like best Hobbit or Rings? Which one was closer to the book? The return journey does not include the grey Havens or old Bilbo.
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Kilidoescartwheels
Valinor
Apr 22 2015, 2:08pm
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I mean, Sam had gotten married & was a Dad. But probably Bilbo's, because it was kind of humorous and Martin was so good in those scenes - well, all of his scenes, really.
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CathrineB
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Apr 22 2015, 2:36pm
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I like Bilbo's return journey a little better possibly, but it's so short. I wish they would afford us a little more scenery.
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dormouse
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Apr 22 2015, 2:48pm
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There isn't a return journey as such in Return of the King.....
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Just a map, and Frodo's voice-over: there are no scenes between the four hobbits at Aragorn's coronation and the four hobbits riding into Hobbiton.
There is much more of the actual journey shown in Battle of the Five Armies. I wasn't expecting to see it and was delighted when we did.
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CathrineB
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Apr 22 2015, 3:47pm
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Think I had forgotten how it was in RotK for a moment 
But yeah so I prefer the Hobbit one because a little is better than nothing and I do like the parting scene with Bilbo and Gandalf in the forest too =)
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Smaug the iron
Gondor
Apr 22 2015, 4:20pm
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I didnīt mean only the return journey I also meant what happen right after the return journey. Like the auction and how Bibo and Frodo are feeling after the journey. And how different it is from the book like The Scouring of the Shire.
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Otaku-sempai
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Apr 22 2015, 4:20pm
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Bilbo's return to Bag End more closely matches the book of The Hobbit than the return of Frodo and his companions in LotR. This might be even more true when we see the extended edition of TH:BotFA.
Main difference, of course, is that in the LotR films Peter Jackson had already killed off Saruman and Grima Wormtongue so presenting their return journey and the Scouring of the Shire would have been problematic at best--which is a shame because I think that it is important in the book to see just how the hobbits' journey has forced them to change and grow.
"At the end of the journey, all men think that their youth was Arcadia..." - Phantom F. Harlock
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Bombadil
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Apr 22 2015, 6:00pm
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Do you all realize that when Bilbo says Goodbye
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to Gandalf?..It's in the same spot as when Bilbos joins
the Company?
He runs up & hands the contract to Balin in the forest,
In..AUJ there.
He walks away from Gandalf in the very same place
in BO5A...
Why is Bomby SSOoo certain of this?
Look closely @ the Trees in Both scenes.
There is One Tree in the Background that has a HUGE
"Burl', near it's Roots..
{Jus' another Geeky observation from your Buddy, Bom.}
But is kinda Cool that?..
THAT one Spot began his journey as part ot
the Company...& it ends his journey saying
Goodbye to
Good ol'
Gandalf.
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dormouse
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Apr 22 2015, 6:08pm
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...but I think the filmmakers also had a good point in deciding that for a cinema audience the Scouring of the Shire would be too much to cope with after the huge emotional climax of Mount Doom. I'd say they were right about that - and the moment they put in, when the four hobbits are drinking together, back home in an unchanged world that cannot comprehend what they've been through, does show how they've changed and grown, but in a very different way. I love that little scene - it's a perfect evocation of how men felt who came home from the First World War.
The Scouring is right and important in the book - I think they would have had a hard job to make it work on film, and not because of Saruman and Grima. With them I think it's the other way round - they killed them off earlier because there was going to be no Scouring, so there had to be a different end to their story.
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BlackFox
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Apr 22 2015, 6:24pm
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I thought the place looked familiar!
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Bilbo and Gandalf also pass through some familiar-looking lupine fields -- perhaps on their way home from Beorn's? 
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Noria
Gondor
Apr 22 2015, 7:17pm
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Me too, everything dormouse said
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I love the Scouring in the book but like Tom Bombadil, I don't think it would have worked in the movie.
In RotK, the way that the four Hobbits ride back into the Shire and the scene in the Green Dragon say all that needs to be said.
I like Bilbo's return journey in BOTFA and though it is not very long, I think it's sufficient. His parting from Gandalf is beautiful.
What I like about the auction scene is that MF brings a little more asperity to it than I imagine from ever coming from book Bilbo. That quality is one of the things I like best about MF's Bilbo.
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Kim
Valinor
Apr 23 2015, 4:03am
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I never quite put that together, but always felt something niggling at me when watching that final scene with Bilbo and Gandalf. Will have to remember to keep an eye out for that burl on future viewings. Thanks Bomby!
"The earth laughs in flowers." - Ralph Waldo Emerson
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