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Spriggan
Tol Eressea
Apr 19 2015, 5:35pm
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But since the films performed in the top 1% of films in each year of release then, if it were my money, I wouldn't be going with the view of some random on the net vs the team which seem to have consistently attracted 100 million or so folks a time.
If the team had heeded your views might they have been more popular? As you say, we just can't know for sure. It would certainly be beginners luck to hit on something that more than 100 M folks liked though, I would think.
Fortunately the "furious reviewers", meme makers and such need not trouble us overmuch in seeking to map their views. They are utterly insignificant in number (whatever their views) when compared to the overall viewing audience. They don't reveal anything about broader tastes.
The thing to beware of is confirmation bias. As soon as you start talking about "canon" you can be quite happy that you have slipped into this. The general audience, the vast, vast majority of people who paid to see the films couldn't give a stuff about "canon". Upon that we can rely!
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Bofur01
Lorien
Apr 19 2015, 6:18pm
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Nah, they replaced most of it...
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With the Rams picking them straight up from Erebor, rather the chariot clearing the path for Thorin.
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Eruonen
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Apr 19 2015, 6:22pm
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Hmm, but why include it in the trailer?
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Bofur01
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Apr 19 2015, 6:30pm
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What I meant was that they removed it from the TE...
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Probably due to time constraints, and will put it back for the EE. That one is definitely confirmed. But at the time of the first trailer, it was going to be in the film.
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Mooseboy018
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Apr 19 2015, 9:47pm
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Cutting Beorn down to 10 seconds sounds like it might have been a last minute decision too. Because some fans who saw the early screening said there was more Beorn fighting (prevized).
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Avandel
Half-elven
Apr 20 2015, 3:05pm
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But since the films performed in the top 1% of films in each year of release then, if it were my money, I wouldn't be going with the view of some random on the net vs the team which seem to have consistently attracted 100 million or so folks a time.
LOL point taken . Especially in what the last few years has been described as a "moribund" film industry with BOFA being described as a film that helped "save" the year financially.
Re your post, that's the thing (I know *sigh*) if I were making films and raking in those kinds of numbers (box office) I'd figure I was doing something right. Also the Hobbit movies made their profits, and while the EE is more gravy, I guess if it was a complete failure re sales (which it won't be) WB would just shrug and use it for a write-off.
The thing to beware of is confirmation bias. As soon as you start talking about "canon" you can be quite happy that you have slipped into this. The general audience, the vast, vast majority of people who paid to see the films couldn't give a stuff about "canon". Upon that we can rely!
To be fair, I am no "canonista" either. Tho I do believe that films CAN encourage a desire to read the original material - in my case it was only after seeing the first Harry Potter I thought I'd check out the first book, for instance.
But re some TORn discussions and additional reading, I had formed the opinion that as unhappy as some things may make me, they were INVIOLATE. But then they weren't.
As you say tho, I imagine the majority of the audience globally hasn't read the material, and the sites I mention are all Hobbit/LOTR related - not "general" movie sites. So those are going to have skewed opinions.
Like everyone, I will just have to wait and see what PJ does . Just gets on my mind from watching DOS and BOFA back-to-back - or watching the AUJ Appendices with all the dwarves .
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Spriggan
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Apr 20 2015, 5:39pm
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Well not necessarily doing something right...
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Though someone might well think so. I think the bit it's difficult to suggest is that it isn't doing something very popular. We can definitely say that things work or don't work for us as individuals though!
And I totally agree that films can spur reading. I would say that, logically though, how "canon" the film is can't make much difference to how much it inspires reading.
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*Laughs*
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