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Bolg's Belly Button

Lio
Lorien


Apr 11 2015, 1:45am

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Bolg's Belly Button Can't Post

This thread is dedicated to Bolg's belly button.



Surely it is undeniable proof that Orcs are mammals!

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MechaGodzilla
Rivendell


Apr 11 2015, 2:11am

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Interesting observation [In reply to] Can't Post

Small detail as it is, it would indeed suggest that Orcs reproduce the traditional way, and aren't born in "mud pits" like Saruman's Uruk-hai. Tongue


Lissuin
Valinor


Apr 11 2015, 2:32am

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The contents of an Orc belly button does not bear contemplation. // [In reply to] Can't Post

 


marary
Lorien

Apr 11 2015, 7:04am

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Very indicative of how much Saruman was muddling [In reply to] Can't Post

The uruk-hai were pretty exceptional for orcs, being "genetically engineered" and grown in an artificial womb by Saruman.

Almost surprised the white wizard didn't go one step further with his gunpowder and invent the gun. Tongue

Did the uruk hai have belly buttons?

And who was Bolg's mother?


Riven Delve
Tol Eressea


Apr 11 2015, 12:31pm

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I think we need a thread on belly button acting. [In reply to] Can't Post

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Although it should come with a warning: Orc belly buttons cannot be unseen. Pirate


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TheHutt
Gondor


Apr 11 2015, 1:58pm

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Why should he? [In reply to] Can't Post

After all, there already were powder-powered rockets in ME: the fireworks of Gandalf!

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Bombadil
Half-elven


Apr 11 2015, 2:38pm

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Are they "Innies" or "Outies"..?// [In reply to] Can't Post

 

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Loresilme
Valinor


Apr 11 2015, 2:49pm

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Too true [In reply to] Can't Post

CrazySlyI'm not sure I want to contemplate this further LaughCrazyCool


BlackFox
Half-elven


Apr 11 2015, 3:31pm

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I got your second question answered some time ago [In reply to] Can't Post

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marary
Lorien

Apr 11 2015, 3:34pm

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what a scandal! [In reply to] Can't Post

 


Lio
Lorien


Apr 11 2015, 10:36pm

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Bolg's mother was [In reply to] Can't Post

Mrs Azog Angelic

Uruk-hai have belly buttons also, so, um, I guess they're mammals too? Laugh

Also, "muddling" . . . pun intended?!

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Lio
Lorien


Apr 11 2015, 11:32pm

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What has it got in its belly buttonses? [In reply to] Can't Post

Fish-bones
Goblins' teeth
Wet shells
Bat's wings
Knife
String

Or . . .

Nothing?!

Dwalin Balin Kili Fili Dori Nori Ori Oin Gloin Bifur Bofur Bombur Thorin

Orcs are mammals!

"Don't laugh at the Dwarves because they will mess you up." — Dean O'Gorman (Fili)

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Otaku-sempai
Immortal


Apr 12 2015, 2:09pm

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Bolg's mommy [In reply to] Can't Post

Could she look like this?



Of course Uruk-hai are mammals. Film-Saruman just used alchemy to speed things along. He had to build his army quickly and didn't have time to wait for them to procreate.

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(This post was edited by Otaku-sempai on Apr 12 2015, 2:11pm)


AshNazg
Gondor


Apr 12 2015, 2:23pm

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Actually, I'm not sure they do have belly-buttons... [In reply to] Can't Post

Your link won't work for me. But if you google screencaps of Lurtz, as well as toys and collectibles he doesn't seem to have a bellybutton


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KrakenGuard
The Shire


Apr 12 2015, 2:55pm

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Oh, geez! It's here to!? [In reply to] Can't Post

Glad to know I'm not the only one who's... Distracted by that belly button. Evil


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Could she look like this?



Of course Uruk-hai are mammals. Film-Saruman just used alchemy to speed things along. He had to build his army quickly and didn't have time to wait for them to procreate.


Does that mean the Uruk-Hai are Semi-Homunculi?

... I hate to say it, but that picture looks kinda cute. Tongue
In a strange, Orcish sort of way...


Otaku-sempai
Immortal


Apr 12 2015, 3:36pm

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Maybe? [In reply to] Can't Post

Yeah, I thought that pic was apropos to the discussion, although it's debatable wheither or not it is actually supposed to be a she-orc.

It could be argued that Saruman's process makes the Uruk-hai of the films some form of homunculi. I am very certain, though, that this was never Tolkien's intent (although his thoughts on the origins of Orcs went through many permutations).

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marary
Lorien

Apr 12 2015, 4:02pm

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Uruk-hai theory [In reply to] Can't Post

The uruks were born the usual way that results in belly buttons, but the "mud-womb" you see them emerge from was some Saruman-sorcery to speed up the maturation into adulthood. Why waste time with infancy/adolescence?


Otaku-sempai
Immortal


Apr 12 2015, 4:04pm

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That could also work! [In reply to] Can't Post

Interesting theory.

"At the end of the journey, all men think that their youth was Arcadia..." - Phantom F. Harlock


Lio
Lorien


Apr 12 2015, 7:33pm

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Another try with Lurtz [In reply to] Can't Post

Does this work?

It doesn't stand out as much as the other pic, but I'm pretty sure the belly button is there Laugh

It's a lot more visible on the Weta figures of him, like this one

Dwalin Balin Kili Fili Dori Nori Ori Oin Gloin Bifur Bofur Bombur Thorin

Orcs are mammals!

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Lio
Lorien


Apr 12 2015, 7:39pm

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Maybe that is her? [In reply to] Can't Post

It would explain Bolg's darker skin and hair, and flatter nose. He really does take after his mom. Laugh

Dwalin Balin Kili Fili Dori Nori Ori Oin Gloin Bifur Bofur Bombur Thorin

Orcs are mammals!

"Don't laugh at the Dwarves because they will mess you up." — Dean O'Gorman (Fili)

Want to chat? AIM me at Yami Liokaiser! (Does anyone still use AIM?)


Lio
Lorien


Apr 12 2015, 7:48pm

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That thought occurred to me also [In reply to] Can't Post

Mostly because allowing Saruman to essentially create living beings from scratch would give him too much power and it just doesn't fit with Tolkien's world.

In any case, wouldn't it mean that Saruman's Uruks are essentially full-grown babies? Rather disturbing to think about (and why I prefer the portrayal in the book, it just leaves things up to your own imagination) Crazy

Dwalin Balin Kili Fili Dori Nori Ori Oin Gloin Bifur Bofur Bombur Thorin

Orcs are mammals!

"Don't laugh at the Dwarves because they will mess you up." — Dean O'Gorman (Fili)

Want to chat? AIM me at Yami Liokaiser! (Does anyone still use AIM?)


Otaku-sempai
Immortal


Apr 12 2015, 7:56pm

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I doubt that this is supposed to be Bolg's mother. [In reply to] Can't Post

The image might represent a female Orc, but that is just because I think that it might have an intentional (if subtle) feminine appearance.

For all I know, Peter Jackson and his crew might have scattered a few goblin-women around the Goblin Town sequence but they are just difficult to spot.

"At the end of the journey, all men think that their youth was Arcadia..." - Phantom F. Harlock


BlackFox
Half-elven


Apr 12 2015, 8:41pm

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LOL // [In reply to] Can't Post

 


 
 

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