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The Use of Magic in these Movies..?

Bombadil
Half-elven


Apr 2 2015, 6:24pm

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The Use of Magic in these Movies..? Can't Post

Often it jus' seems Natural to us since Reading the Books.

But to Start a discussion of "Incidental Magic"
throughout the 3 Films...

Here is Number one.
Old Bilbo blows a Smoke RING by the Front DOOR
{Which becomes the TITLE CARD} in AUJ

Fast forward 60 years, & Gandalf turns that Smoke Ring into a
Butterfly that goes up Young Bilbo's Nose?

Did Gandalf have Young Bilbo
INHALE an Adventure?

We never get a complete answer to the "MothMysteries" but
Thatzz Something
you don't see everyday?

HAVE Fun writing about your Favorite Magic!
bom
Crazy

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BlackFox
Half-elven


Apr 2 2015, 7:03pm

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Gandalf lighting the pine cones! [In reply to] Can't Post

I Heart that scene!



Bombadil
Half-elven


Apr 2 2015, 7:07pm

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Here's a FUNNY..? [In reply to] Can't Post

Bombur on his BACK
Snoring in & OUT
TINY MOTHS?

Blew
Bom's Mind...
Crazy

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Bombadil
Half-elven


Apr 2 2015, 7:11pm

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BIG OPPzz? Correction... [In reply to] Can't Post

FLASH BACK 60 years...D'OH
Dumb bom.
Crazy

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BlackFox
Half-elven


Apr 2 2015, 7:13pm

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That scene still has me giggling! // [In reply to] Can't Post

 



Brethil
Half-elven


Apr 2 2015, 8:24pm

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Gandalf splitting the boulders with his staff [In reply to] Can't Post

in Goblintown and the Trollshaws. Love the bit of blue flash. Its a neat reflection of the 'kindling' power versus 'fiery' power. I can feel it (*Head canon alert*) as the concentrated, awakening of force that can split the stones. Cool Cool, however you slice it.








Bombadil
Half-elven


Apr 3 2015, 1:25am

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When Gandalf walks out of SHADOW [In reply to] Can't Post

After Blasting Goblins & Dwarves
to the ground
in Goblintown..!!!

His Silhouette is PERFECT

{Favorite Shot of OUR Grey Wizard}
bom
Crazy

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Kim
Valinor


Apr 3 2015, 1:48am

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Yeah, that's my favorite magical moment [In reply to] Can't Post

such an iconic image, and the way the sound went out at the moment of the blast - totally cool.


I do also like the little bit when they're sitting around the table in Bag End and Gandalf lights his pipe - it took me several viewings to realize he lit it with his finger, which he then blew out! Smile




Brethil
Half-elven


Apr 3 2015, 2:05am

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Yes. Wonderful shot. // [In reply to] Can't Post


In Reply To
When Gandalf walks out of SHADOWAfter Blasting Goblins & Dwarves
to the ground
in Goblintown..!!!

His Silhouette is PERFECT

{Favorite Shot of OUR Grey Wizard}
bom
Crazy









Bombadil
Half-elven


Apr 3 2015, 2:06am

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Gandalf: "Enough, If I say he is a Burgler... [In reply to] Can't Post

..Then a BURLER.. he is.."

G-man Grows LARGER..? WHOA, REally..

You don't want to Cross Gandalf, me might turn YOU
in to Something Un-Natural.
Crazy

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(This post was edited by Bombadil on Apr 3 2015, 2:09am)


BlackFox
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Apr 3 2015, 9:21am

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Oh yes! [In reply to] Can't Post

That's another one of my favourites too.

I also quite enjoyed Galadriel's "vanishing act" in AUJ.



(This post was edited by BlackFox on Apr 3 2015, 9:32am)


Bombadil
Half-elven


Apr 3 2015, 3:24pm

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What would you Call Gandalf's White Bubble? [In reply to] Can't Post

Fighting the Balrog, it was like some sorta
"Invincibility Shield" emanating from his Staff...

Fighting Azog in DG, it was Bigger..
But Sauron was able to break through...

Does anyone have a name for it..?
Is it, Canon?

It would be nice to settle on some name for it.

Now, Radagast tried about 4 different potions in an
Attempt to Revive Sebastian, what ideas do you have
they were?

When Raddy gives Gandalf his Staff, he keeps the Blue Crystal
that saved Sebastian, so what do you make of that?

Bom knows these are a lot of questions,
BUT, it would be Great to hear your ideas.

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BlackFox
Half-elven


Apr 3 2015, 4:23pm

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Force field? [In reply to] Can't Post

Now, Radagast tries six different methods in his attempt to revive Sebastian:

1.


2.


3.


4.


5.


All these could be simply natural medicines, which, as we know, fail to cure the creature.

The method that does work...



... is, however, clearly magical in its essence: drawing out the poison using an incantation and a magical item.



(This post was edited by BlackFox on Apr 3 2015, 4:24pm)


Bombadil
Half-elven


Apr 4 2015, 1:16am

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WOWIE! Thag you Berry Buch for... [In reply to] Can't Post

for Breathing New Life into this
"Magic Thread"..

Yes, MAGIC Moments.. Don't jus' come to THOSE in Long Robes
TALL in Posture, Stern Looks,
Sorta lookin' DOWN
on other people...

The Character of Raddy threw a
Wrench into THAT Machine.

When Gandalf met him in the High Fells?
Was it Radagast? who Flew out & then Transformed
in the Crypt?

No one has Touched THAT topic here..?
YET..
Crazy

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BlackFox
Half-elven


Apr 4 2015, 9:37am

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On Radagast [In reply to] Can't Post

One of the reasons that lead me to suggest that the first five methods he used in his attempt to revive Sebastian were natural medicines, was the fact that it is only after unsuccessfully trying these that he realizes it's a "dark and powerful" magic he's dealing with. It is then he understands that he too must turn to magic if he wishes to succeed.

Now, about that scene in the crypts. I don't think he goes through a transformation there -- I view the scene more in line with Galadriel's "vanishing act" in AUJ. Galadriel disappears, Radagast appears (seemingly out of nowhere). Though a transformation is not entirely unimaginable, especially seeing how it has sometimes been argued that Radagast may have indeed had the ability to change form (a theory prompted by a short passage in "The Council of Elrond" where Gandalf describes him as a "master of shapes and changes of hue").



Bombadil
Half-elven


Apr 4 2015, 10:22am

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Good Thinking...AND [In reply to] Can't Post

Radagast does Live near a "Shape-Shifter"

SOoo did Radagast teach the Beornings
how to Shape Shift? or
the Other way around.

Interesting that those two are living on the edge
of Mirkwood that has gone through a
Color Transformation..
Thanks to Sauron..

Much to think about there?
Or is bomby jus' blowing Colorful
Smoke Rings..
Crazy

In a WAy, Colorful Smoke Rings in BagEND
& Colorful Pine Cones thrown @ Orcs
from Pine Trees would have
been really Nice..& Canon

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Bombadil
Half-elven


Apr 4 2015, 7:28pm

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The Magic of Telepathy..? [In reply to] Can't Post

Galadriel/Gandalf isn't the ONLY time demonstrated..
Gandalf/Radagast, too..

Smaug seemed to have Telepathy of some sort,
but never Fully explained.

But it IZZ..inconsistent
even in the LOTR

Saruman/Wormtongue
@ Galadreil's Mirror, then
Frodo {@ Shelob's Cave}../Galadreil

Using the Palantir allows one to have
temporarily,
Telepahty
with Sauron...

Also, bom believes @ times Gandalf uses his
Stern Voice to ...Hypnotize..

Any way
Any thoughts on that.?
Crazy

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(This post was edited by Bombadil on Apr 4 2015, 7:30pm)

 
 

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