Dân o’Nandor-on-Anduin
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Mar 23 2015, 9:45am
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The Arda 300: #'s 200-181
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We enter the top 200, in characters, and songs! And sador if your artsy tastes aren’t satisfied by the end of this batch of 20, I don’t know what I can do! #200 *Erendis Tar-Elestirnë, Lady of the Westlands, Queen of Númenor (f) – númenórean queen [TG:15,EoA:15,Wik:22,MD:1,UT:24,LoE:1,H12:4=82pts,49indx.pgs] http://tolkiengateway.net/wiki/Erendis She’s indexed under 5 names & epithets in UT, the source of most of her points; including Uinéniel ‘Daughter of Uinen’. “Call me by no such name!” Erendis said aloud after Valandil, Lord of Andúnië, named her so at a feast, “I am no daughter of Uinen: rather she is my foe”. (I couldn’t find songs that attempt to accurately depict this dysfunctional relationship, for both Erendis, and Aldarion later, without opening a serious gender debate – thus in both cases their songs represent the wishes that each may have preferred). https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rXTaWgP3mOQ #199 *Pengolod the Wise, of Gondolin – noldo loremaster [TG:34,Wik:9,MD:1,DK:2,H4:4,H5:6,H9:2,H10:8,H11:10,H12:6=82pts,107indx.pgs] http://tolkiengateway.net/wiki/Pengolod As Erendis above, Pengolod is an asterisked character, of which only 3 now remain. 2 of his points, and 11 of his indexed pages come from Kane, who notes that much was lost in the extraction of Pengolod from the published Sil due to his dialogue, observations, and ‘poetic prose’. His point from Drout comes from David Bratman’s entry on HoMe12, particularly the ‘Teachings of Pengolod’, “written by Tolkien in the 1950’s [that] addresses the question of how immortal Elves can have a language that changes and develops”. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CoI8meVAySE #198 Paladin II Took, 31st Thain of the Shire – hobbit thain [TG:34,EoA:13,Wik:5,RF:7,JT:15,MD:1,LR:2,H6:2,H8:2,H9:2=83pts,14indx.pgs] http://tolkiengateway.net/wiki/Paladin_II He appears in Janet Brennan Croft’s ‘Pippin’ entry in Drout’s Encyclopedia. (Paladin, Aladdin, may be a stretch, but this song needs to appear somewhere…) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UtkP5gTX6Hc #197 Uglúk – orc soldier [TG:40,EoA:1,Wik:4,RF:3,JT:18,DD:12,LR:1,H7:2,H12:2=83pts,22indx.pgs] http://tolkiengateway.net/wiki/Ugl%C3%BAk Nearly half his points come from his thorough Tolkien Gateway entry (above), in which his many media depictions are given. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rq7PiHX1nn0 #196 Bandobras ‘Bullroarer’ Took – hobbit warrior [TG:46,EoA:3,Wik:2,RF:9,JT:10,JR:4,LR:3,H6:2,H9:4=83pts,23indx.pgs] http://tolkiengateway.net/wiki/Bandobras_Took This founder of the North-Tooks gets more than half his points from Tolkien Gateway, which includes his appearance in Jackson’s ‘Hobbit’ (above). https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-1_4TnPT8os #195 Déagol – stoor fisherman [TG:15,EoA:6,Wik:11,RF:7,JT:10,MD:1,LR:2,LT:1,H6:4,H7:4,H12:2,HoF+:20=83pts,32indx.pgs] http://tolkiengateway.net/wiki/Deagol He gets points from the initial thread that inspired this list, voting for characters that were deemed most important to the story that is the legendarium. Déagol certainly had his 15 minutes of fame. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NuHhLiRkxNM #194 Valacar, 20th King of Gondor – gondorian dúnadan king [TG:27,EoA:13,Wik:6,RF:9,JT:18,LR:1,UT:6,H12:4=84pts,14indx.pgs] http://tolkiengateway.net/wiki/Valacar He was sent North to Rhovanion (and Johnny Horton can make an appearance on any list of mine…) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JSt0NEESrUA #193 Nori, companion of Thorin Oakenshield – dwarf adventurer [TG:42,EoA:8,Wik:1,RF:3,JT:4,DD:14,JR:8,LR:1,H6:2,H12:2=85pts,20indx.pgs] http://tolkiengateway.net/wiki/Nori He’s the first of Thorin’s company to appear. The rest will be spread out rather evenly for the remainder of the list. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DohRa9lsx0Q #192 Tilion, Steersman of the Moon – maia hunter/adventurer [TG:21,EoA:4,Wik:5,RF:8,JT:4,DD:11,MD:2,JG:1,DK:1,Sil:1,H1:8,B1:5,H2:2,H4:4,H5:2,H10:4,H11:2=85pts,60indx.pgs] http://tolkiengateway.net/wiki/Tilion Garth, Drout, & Kane all appear amongst the 17 sources that contribute to this cosmic Maia’s ranking. Kane notes that Tilion was drawn to the splendour of Arien’s beauty, as fair as she was, that is until CT got the trimming shears out. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qlnp_oKHzQY #191 Rómendacil I, 8th King of Gondor – gondorian dúnadan king [TG:19,EoA:26,Wik:5,RF:7,JT:11,MD:1,LR:3,UT:8,H12:6=86pts,9indx.pgs] http://tolkiengateway.net/wiki/Romendacil_I He ordered the ‘Tradition of Isildur’ set down in a sealed scroll to be delivered by the Steward before the crowning of the King. And he was the first King that headed East… https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dIRP4gydheQ #190 Ondoher, 31st King of Gondor – gondorian dúnadan king [TG:44,EoA:2,Wik:9,RF:5,JT:15,LR:1,UT:4,H12:6=86pts,26indx.pgs] http://tolkiengateway.net/wiki/Ondoher What is Ondoher’s claim to fame? Hmm. He, in Gondor, and Araphant in Arthedain, perceived a common enemy intent on the destruction of their kingdoms. As enemies were preparing to attack, neither could coordinate an alliance. Ondoher split his forces, taking command of the Northern Army, with his eldest son, to meet the Wainriders of the east. They were met and Gondor’s forces destroyed, including the King & his son. Ondoher’s only remaining son, and his nephew, were both slain in the ensuing onslaught. The leader of the Southern Army, Eärnil, defeated the Wainriders in the Battle of the Camp, but Gondor was left without an heir, other than Ondoher’s son-in-law Arvedui. He, however, putting forth 2 claims to throne, as King of Arthedain, and husband of the daughter of the King of Gondor, was denied either by Gondor’s Stewardship; as naturally, a second claim will tend to put into question the validity of the first! Gondor’s Kingship was thus entrusted to the victorious war-leader Eärnil, but his son would die without an heir. Meanwhile the North-kingdom had been destroyed, along with Arvedui. So Ondoher’s claim is nothing short of… the end… https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e9TmQQQGddQ #189 Tar-Atanamir the Great, 13th King of Númenor – númenórean king [TG:29,EoA:6,Wik:3,RF:8,JT:8,LR:1,Sil:3,UT:4.LoE:14,H5:2,H9:2,H12:6=86pts,26indx.pgs] http://tolkiengateway.net/...r-Atanamir_the_Great Under him the Shadow came upon Numenor, and it’s peoples became estranged from their hallowed halls. Tar-Atanamir died in 2221 S.A., but was alive in 2112, and he encouraged the dedication to the temples of the kings… https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NJPAjiSX7Rk #188 Uldor the Accursed – easterling chieftain [TG:10,EoA:1,Wik:2,RF:11,JT:42,MD:1,DK:1,Sil:2,CoH:3,UT:4,H4:2,H5:4,H11:4=87pts,38indx.pgs] http://tolkiengateway.net/wiki/Uldor Tyler gives him nearly half his points from a long and thorough entry. Kane & Drout do him service too, despite his deeds…. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fwWX9JbIxFw #187 Nimrodel, Lady of the White Grotto (f) – sylvan lady [TG:23,EoA:1,Wik:3,RF:5,JT:15,DD:11,MD:2,LR:3,UT:8,H7:12,H8:2,H12:2=87pts,57indx.pgs] http://tolkiengateway.net/wiki/Nimrodel She appears in Verlyn Flieger’s lengthy entry ‘Poems By Tolkien’ in Drout’s Encyclopedia. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nidva4waV9E #186 Watcher in the Water – kraken(?) guard(?) [TG:23,EoA:5,Wik:10,RF:8,JT:6,DD:31,MD:1,LR:2,H7:2=88pts,12indx.pgs] http://tolkiengateway.net/...Watcher_in_the_Water Classified as a ‘Kraken’ by David Day, I’m not sure if that’s an accurate assessment, but we know he existed in black water… https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sbDkN19nD6A #185 Ancalagon the Black – dragon [TG:24,EoA:4,Wik:8,RF:4,JT:7,DD:21,MD:2,JR:2,LR:1,Sil:2,H4:4,H5:2,H11:2,H12:2,HoF+:3=88pts,30indx.pgs] http://tolkiengateway.net/wiki/Ancalagon Mmm. Couldn’t go with Peter, Paul & Mary. Couldn’t do Ram Jam. Had to go with the left-handed master, due to greatness, not race… https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3jbdw43yvTY #184 Rían, wife of Huor (f) – 1st house adan [TG:35,EoA:1,Wik:8,RF:8,JT:15,DK:1,Sil:4,CoH:2,UT:2,H4:4,H5:4,H7:2,H11:2=pts,88pts,49indx.pgs] http://tolkiengateway.net/wiki/Rian She was the mother of Tuor, and wife of Huor, and deserves her place. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IT1q7L4QA0A #183 Rúmil the Sage, of Tirion – noldo loremaster [TG:20,EoA:1,Wik:5,RF:5,JT:7,MD:6,JR:1,DK:1,HC:1,LR:1,Sil:3,H1:10,B1:3,H2:2,H4:2,H5:4,H7:2,H9:2,H10:4,H11:6,H12:2=88pts,89indx.pg] http://tolkiengateway.net/wiki/Rumil_of_Tirion 21 sources contribute to his standing, including multiple indexing in Drout’s Encyclopedia; in Arden Smith’s ‘Alphabets’ entry, Matthew Dickerson’s ‘Elves: Kindreds & Migrations’ entry, Carl Hostetter’s ‘Elvish Compositions & Grammars’ entry, Bradford Lee Eden’s ‘Music in Middle-earth’ entry, and David Bratman’s ‘Posthumous Publications’ entry. I think it’s only Christopher that limits his ranking. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j8QqxMvb8AM #182 Celebrían, wife of Elrond (f) – elda [TG:18,EoA:6,Wik:18,RF:8,JT:8,DD:18,MD:2,LR:1,LT:1,UT:4,H9:4,H12:4=92pts,33indx.pgs] http://tolkiengateway.net/wiki/Celebr%C3%ADan Feeling kind of seasick, she headed for the coast… https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=St6jyEFe5WM #181 Fredegar ‘Fatty’ Bolger @ – hobbit [TG:42,EoA:1,Wik:9,RF:14,JT:12,JR:1,LR:3,H6:4,H7:6=92pts,57indx.pgs] http://tolkiengateway.net/wiki/Fatty_Bolger Rateliff notes that “Bombur is not Tolkien’s only obese character; other examples of his rather cruel sense of humor… are Fatty Bolger” and “Fattie Dorkins in Mr. Bliss… however… Farmer Giles and Bilbo himself – are distinctly on the tubby side”. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M58wE8GTGp4 glossary: *=as in CT's indexing in UT (ie. characters not appearing in Hobbit/LotR/AdvTB/Sil) @=guest at Bilbo’s Farewell Party (f)=female (n)=neutral POINTS - for ENTRIES: TG=Tolkien Gateway,EoA=Encyclopedia of Arda,Wik=Wikipedia,RF=Robert Foster’s Complete Guide to Middle-earth,JT=J.E.A. Tyler’s Tolkien Companion,DD=David Day’s A-Z of Tolkien; for INDICES: LR=Lord of the Rings,Sil=Silmarillion,UT=Unfinished Tales,HX=History of Middle-earth Vol.X,LT=Letters of J.R.R. Tolkien,HC=Humphrey Carpenter’s Biography,JG=John Garth’s Tolkien and the Great War,JR=John Rateliff’s History of The Hobbit,DK=Douglas Kane’s Arda Reconstructed; for both ENTRIES & INDICES: MD=Michael Drout’s Tolkien Encyclopedia; for NAME-LISTS: CoH=Children of Húrin,B1 or B2=the ‘Qenya & Gnomish Lexicons’ from Book of Lost Tales Vols.1&2,FoG=the ‘Fall of Gondolin’ from BoLT Vol.2,LoE=the ‘Line of Elros’ tree & list from UT; MISC: HoF+=votes from the Hall of Fire thread that initiated this project + a composite of selected favourite character lists.
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Brethil
Half-elven
Mar 23 2015, 8:47pm
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Some blighted ladies in this batch!
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Erendis, Nimrodel, Celebrian and Rian. My. Presumably Celebrian at least had some small measure of succor at the end of grief in life. My guess is that Nimrodel did not. Enjoying following the posts. Thanks!
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Dân o’Nandor-on-Anduin
Rivendell
Mar 23 2015, 10:41pm
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is the alternate title of Doug Kane's Arda Reconstructed. If you don't own a copy, I highly recommend it!
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Bracegirdle
Valinor
Mar 23 2015, 11:13pm
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Shelob's BLOATED BAG . ..
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sador
Half-elven
Mar 24 2015, 8:29am
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I hope you don't mind my prattle.
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Obviously, you are supposed to satisfy your own taste in this list, not mine! I'm just enjoying the fruits of your work.
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Voronwë_the_Faithful
Valinor
Mar 24 2015, 4:22pm
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But thanks for the pitch!
'But very bright were the stars upon the margin of the world, when at times the clouds about the West were drawn aside.' The Hall of Fire
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