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Hamfast Gamgee
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Mar 11 2015, 11:47pm
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Hobbits, Spider slayers
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Now, Hobbits must have been the greatest slayers of spiders in the Legenduim. Firstly we have Bilbo coming from been the mildest member of the company to Erebor suddenly turning into an anti-spider psycopath and killing many just by himself. Now, all right I can buy that one as he was invisibe at the time, but then what about Sam? He was not invisible when he took on Shelob, yet he managed to harm the toughest, most terrible spider in all of middle-earth. Now, all right, he did have sting, and all right he was desperate about his Master's peril, but really? Would one little Hobbit really be more effective against a spider-monster than all of those Elves and Gondor-soldiers that had tried to slay it in the past? All I can say is that I bet there weren't many spiders around in the garden at Bag End!
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Bracegirdle
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Mar 12 2015, 12:25am
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Right!
There were no spiders anywhere near Bag End.
They were stopped at the borders by the Bounders! 
Yucky buggers... 
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balbo biggins
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Mar 12 2015, 5:20pm
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its the classic david and goliath, shelob is killed using her own weight against herself onto sting, you sort of have to accept its a freak occurance or very very lucky, that combined with the phial which helps to blind her somewhat, which no other man or elf would posses.
and lets just forget about the physics and physiology of a spider that big, would never happen.
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Otaku-sempai
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Mar 12 2015, 6:27pm
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and lets just forget about the physics and physiology of a spider that big, would never happen.
I think that we can make an exception for a demon-spider (much as we do for dragons and flight). Normal physical laws don't entirely apply.
"At the end of the journey, all men think that their youth was Arcadia..." - Phantom F. Harlock
(This post was edited by Otaku-sempai on Mar 12 2015, 6:28pm)
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balbo biggins
Rohan
Mar 12 2015, 6:59pm
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thats my point! you have to accept it!
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and lets just forget about the physics and physiology of a spider that big, would never happen. I think that we can make an exception for a demon-spider (much as we do for dragons and flight). Normal physical laws don't entirely apply.
then why does a dragon need wings?
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Otaku-sempai
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Mar 12 2015, 7:00pm
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It just needs metaphorical wings!
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Actually, not all dragons have wings.
"At the end of the journey, all men think that their youth was Arcadia..." - Phantom F. Harlock
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BlackFox
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Mar 13 2015, 12:19pm
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Do they fly because they have wings...
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... or do they have wings because they fly?
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Otaku-sempai
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Mar 13 2015, 1:16pm
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flying ones usually do,
Isn't it nice when you can answer your own question? Although there are Asian dragons that fly without wings, swimming through the air like eels swim in the water. It's magic!
Then there's the book The Flight of Dragons that looked at the plausability of dragons from a scientific perspective. I don't recall if it was name-checked in the credits of that Dragon's World documentary (mockumentary?) that aired on Animal Planet a few years ago (and I just noticed has Neil Gaiman listed as a creative consultant), but it probably should have been.
"At the end of the journey, all men think that their youth was Arcadia..." - Phantom F. Harlock
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Hamfast Gamgee
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Mar 13 2015, 10:21pm
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None of the bigger spiders got anywhere near the Shire, but even the smaller ones I imagine would have had a hard time in Bag End.
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