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Brethil
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Feb 26 2015, 9:51pm
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First and foremost I consider myself a Tolkien fan
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But I really love much of the SPJ M-e films, and am thankful for the care taken. Very enjoyable to me. But Tolkien is a lifetime of enjoyment on another plane.
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demnation
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Feb 26 2015, 11:45pm
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What is up with these kinds of threads recently?
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Can't say I'm really a fan of this VS. stuff. Why does it matter, anyway? Now I remember why I left the site.
"It is not our part to master all the tides of the world, but to do what is in us for the succour of those years wherein we are set, uprooting the evil in the fields that we know, so that those who live after may have clean earth to till. What weather they shall have is not ours to rule." Gandalf, "The Last Debate."
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Ham_Sammy
Tol Eressea
Feb 26 2015, 11:46pm
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I cannot have one without the other. Tolkien's wonderful stories. PJ's wonderful films. I thank them both equally. In my lifetime I wanted to see all of these films made. I got my wish. from a kid who picked up the LOTR and Hobbit in a small bookstore in the mid to late sixties till now. My dreams have come true and without both of these fine gentlemen (and PJ's wonderful sidekicks in Fran and Phil et.al) none of it would have been realized. So pints raised all around for me!
All you have to decide is what to do with the time that is given to you, Gandalf the Grey
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Kirly
Lorien
Feb 27 2015, 3:11am
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Tolkien fan since I was a child
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I love Jacksons ME films but have little interest in his other works. Now that I'm more aware of him, I might be a bit more interested. But, nothing compares with the original.
My avatar photo is Lake Tekapo in New Zealand's South Island. Taken by me in 2004 on a Red Carpet Tours LOTR Movie Location Tour. 'Twas the Vacation of a Lifetime! pictures taken while on the tour are here: https://picasaweb.google.com/Kirly7/LOTRNewZealandTour#
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QuackingTroll
Valinor
Feb 27 2015, 4:07am
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Glorfindela, have you ever tried the BBC radio show?
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It's by far the most immersive Tolkien experience I've ever had. Lying in bed each night with your eyes closed and hearing Middle-earth surround you as if you're right in the middle of it, it's incredible. I've owned it on CD for years and only gave it a chance a few months ago, wish I'd done it earlier. Nothing trumps the book in terms of quality though. I genuinely cry when I read Sam's words "Well, I'm back" because you really feel you've gone on this long journey with him and it's come to an end. Especially because I'm a slow reader so it takes me weeks to get through it all.
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swordwhale
Tol Eressea
Feb 27 2015, 5:15am
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...so Tolkien fan first... then PJ did the best adaptation ever of an "unfilmable" book. and the Hobbit? More of Middle Earth! Also, more detail in the film from a book that I didn't love quite as much as LOTR
Na 'Aear, na 'Aear! Mýl 'lain nallol, I sûl ribiel a i falf 'loss reviol... To the sea, to the sea, the white gulls are crying, the wind is blowing and the white foam is flying...
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Glorfindela
Valinor
Feb 27 2015, 10:56am
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I've yet to try the BBC radio show
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I have heard that it's really good from one of my sisters. I must try it out…
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a.s.
Valinor
Feb 27 2015, 1:35pm
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I'm just a LOTR fan, at the end of the day :-)
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So, I've been reading Tolkien since somewhere in the mid-1960s, when I read Hobbit as a child. I never was much of a Hobbit fan, vastly preferring Narnia and always getting Hobbit mixed up with the Princess and Curdie and all the goblins, etc. The only Tolkien I re-read is LOTR, which I have read, conservatively speaking, approximately 40 times (so roughly every year since the late 60s/early 70s, with an occasional lapse). For perspective, to my knowledge I have only read the Hobbit three times, and once was for a Reading Room discussion, and I didn't like it then, either. Ditto the Sil. Ditto UT or Lost Tales, or any other non-LOTR tales, although I have read them and many others in an effort to understand LOTR. I only really like and re-watch FOTR as far as the movies go. This isn't because I don't LIKE those specific movies, it's just a reflection of my general non-movie personality. I watch very few movies, and the only ones I actually re-watch are To Kill a Mockingbird and Wizard of Oz. And FOTR, which is the quietist of all of PJs interpretations, the closest to the feeling of the books, and for which PJ has my undying gratitude in those opening scenes of Hobbiton and Gandalf's cart over the little bridge. I forgave him many an extended fight scene in the rest of the LOTR films for those opening scenes. I watched all the Hobbit movies once, as my daughter is a fan and we go together. I didn't really care for them, which is not surprising since the book itself leaves me cold and I am not even fan enough of the book to know where PJ has deviated from the story therein! What should I take from all these discussions about "do you like the books or the movies best"? I don't know. I think in twenty years the LOTR films will be dated and I don't think it will even take that long for the Hobbit films to feel dated, and hopefully at that time I will still be re-reading LOTR from my very old, very beat up copies. So I guess I am just a LOTR fan, and Tolkien gave it to me, so I thank Tolkien. a.s.
"an seileachan" "A safe fairyland is untrue to all worlds." JRR Tolkien, Letters.
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dormouse
Half-elven
Feb 27 2015, 2:36pm
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The BBC radio adaptation? It is very good.....
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I second (or is it third) that. Certainly worth a listen.
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shadow0421
Bree
Feb 27 2015, 5:21pm
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I tried, REALLY tried to read the Hobbit and LOTR when I was in high school back in the '80s, but for me Tolkien was just too detailed and he couldn't keep my interest. Didn't have any Tolkien books, that is until Fellowship came out. This is when I became a Tolkien fan. PJ made ME so real. I loved everything about it. The casting, acting, writing, and of course the MUSIC was perfect. I had Tolkien fever bad. I bought all the books pertaining to ME and started reading. Using PJ's visuals Tolkien now came to life for me. Tolkien was a literary genius and I love his world even though I understand only a little of it. I'm currently reading The History of The Hobbit and just recently purchased a few UC LOTR swords. Also, PJ's LOTR wouldn't be the masterpieces they are today if it wasn't for Howard Shore's music, so THANK YOU Mr. Shore!! They are my favorite soundstracks of all-time. I was disappointed in PJ's Hobbit movies but enjoy them enough to rewatch them over and over again. Can't get enough of ME!
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Farficom
Rivendell
Feb 28 2015, 4:31am
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Ever since I picked up the books when I was 13-14 years old, and I'll be coming of age by hobbit standards in a few short weeks.
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I have considered myself a J.R.R. Tolkien fan first and foremost, but I am thankful for all the movies and cartoons that have been made. I am not such a purist that I can't enjoy them for what they are, or any other little slice of Middle-earth that has been served up for us to feast on over the years because no matter what I always find myself coming back to the main source... and that is the masterworks of one Professor Tolkien.
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dreamflower
Lorien
Mar 3 2015, 9:12pm
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Both of them have given me great enjoyment, and an opportunity to meet and interact with other friends around the world. But that said, without Tolkien, PJ would not have had Middle-earth in the first place. "Tolkien movies have proven succesfull prior to PJ " Really? *shudder*recalls Bakshi*
Some people call it fanfiction. I call it story-internal literary criticism.
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