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Bishop
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Feb 21 2015, 12:02am
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Did Jackson make a digital dwarf double of himself?
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Not sure if anyone can confirm, but watching the Battle of Azanulbizar I noticed that the dwarf right next to Thorin looks an awful lot like Jackson's hobbling dwarf cameo. Plus there are two of them, one next to Thorin and one to the left, and then a third one enters the shot as the camera spins around. I'm fairly certain the entire shot is CG, and I thought it was funny (in a good way) that Jackson might have put himself into the charge as a duplicated CG dwarf.
Image is here.
For reference here's the earlier cameo.
(This post was edited by Bishop on Feb 21 2015, 12:04am)
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Feb 21 2015, 1:12am
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But notice that the other bare-headed dwarf on the far left (of the first image) looks almost exactly the same. So that might have just been the basic digital design they used. Whether it's supposed to be Jackson I don't know.
How many Tolkien fans does it take to change a light bulb?
"Change? Oh my god, what do you mean change?! Never, never, never......"
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Bishop
Gondor
Feb 21 2015, 2:13am
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I think all the Dwarves here are digital, and yes the one next to Thorin is clearly the same as the one on the left (in the first pic), as well as the third one that enters the frame in the film in the same shot. I was just curious if anyone knew if it was a design based on Jackson in full makeup. It looks so much like him, especially in motion.
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Rohan
Feb 21 2015, 2:15am
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Must've misunderstood a little bit there.
How many Tolkien fans does it take to change a light bulb?
"Change? Oh my god, what do you mean change?! Never, never, never......"
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ecthelionsbeard
Lorien
Feb 21 2015, 3:22am
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Good spot!! That's him alright. I never noticed that before.
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Bishop
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Feb 21 2015, 3:36am
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Seeing as you're good with carrot man
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This shouldn't be an issue! 
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ecthelionsbeard
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Feb 21 2015, 4:00am
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I love carrot man ^_^ Anyway, that's a wrap, Bishop. I assume you got my last messages.
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QuackingTroll
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Feb 22 2015, 6:09pm
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Shame there's so much obvious cloning in these crowd scenes
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Remembering the effort put into Weta's 'Massive' software in Lord of the Rings, where each individual was randomized to create a sense of uniqueness. Different proportions and heights and tones and armour and weapons - and different fight styles and behaviors were all generated by their "orc builder" tech.
Here they seem to have just cloned around 5 variations and said "that'll do". It does seem a bit lazy, especially the elves in BoFA, they all look like mannequins. 
I suppose it's difficult to generate thousands of unique human faces, but I think they needed to add in more variations to make it less obvious. For example, by giving the crowd the faces of all the animation team. It would be a cool way to give everyone a cameo, while keeping the large crowds diverse. Ah well. It's just too much work, I guess.
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Kirly
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Feb 22 2015, 8:07pm
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Based on the commentaries and extras
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I think it was too much work for the time they had.
My avatar photo is Lake Tekapo in New Zealand's South Island. Taken by me in 2004 on a Red Carpet Tours LOTR Movie Location Tour. 'Twas the Vacation of a Lifetime!
pictures taken while on the tour are here:
https://picasaweb.google.com/Kirly7/LOTRNewZealandTour#
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sauget.diblosio
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Feb 23 2015, 8:37pm
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I love the shot of Thranduil on his elk mount in AUJ
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surrounded by his clone army.
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