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** 'The Fellowship of the Ring' ch. 9-2, 'At the Sign of the Prancing Pony': Dramatis Personnae
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sador
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Feb 23 2015, 2:15pm

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I admit forgetting Shelob's lair, but you can't really call it a house. [In reply to] Can't Post


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Several very good business reasons...

Oh, that's very good!



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Yes. Who do you think does all the cooking, cleaning, washing, etc?


Sounds right. Even if he does refer to his "people" in the next chapter.



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Shows Butterbur knows who has the money in Bree. And the power.


Which explains Gandalf's comment that he can see through a wall of bricks (Many Meetings).



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A successful merchant has lots of experience dealing with bad customers under stressful conditions. A really good merchant can even turn such dealings to his advantage.

As you see, the Master had not got his position for nothing. The result of his words was that for the moment the people quite forgot their idea of a new king, and turned their angry thoughts towards Thorin and his company.

- Fire and Water




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Butterbur meets his prejudices (kind and stupid) quite deliberately
Strider represents something strange, new, exciting, vaguely frightening, and, in the end, endearing.


Right you are. Was there ever such a greenhorn as Frodo?


sador
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Feb 23 2015, 2:18pm

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Just another point: [In reply to] Can't Post

In Homeward Bound, Butterbur says that Gandalf always takes care of his horse himself. But later he does trust the men of Minas Tirith with Shadowfax. Apparently his opinion of Bob as an ostler wasn't high.


sador
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Feb 23 2015, 3:38pm

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A gratuitious response. [In reply to] Can't Post


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Plus whatever “gratuities” he might accrue. I’m surprised he didn’t demand one from the hobbits.


Perhaps he recognised Merry, and decided not to get in trouble.
But it's interesting that Frodo only didn;t like his look, while he did think of the little money he had when Strider hinted that he will want a reward.



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Given “Nob” is a town settled by the tribe of Benjamin, I’m tempted to say Nob is Butterbur’s youngest son


At the very least, he was one of the Sons of Ben.
Small wonder the hobbits asked for a song from the strangers! Anything would be better than to here Nob reciting again something like:

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Gather ye rosebuds while ye may, Old Time is still a-flying; And this same flower that smiles today, Tomorrow will be dying.

They even thought The Cat and the Fiddle better!



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one can only wonder at how draconian the penalties must be for any violation of the Bree-land Naming Act.
Obviously Bree is being ruled by an iron fist.

Not necessarily.
Tar and feathers do the job just as well.



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Rather a dead giveaway, as ancient belief held that fern seeds bestowed invisibility.

"I knew there was something wrong, when a stout little fellow with red cheeks, taller than some and fairer than most, a perky chap with a bright eye and a cleft in his chin, came along calling himself Ferny. It was a dead giveaway. Dead giveaway."



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Probably anticipated meeting hobbits, but not any Hobbits, if you get my drift.

And it is never advisable to count on your prejudices regarding Outsiders to be universlly applicable. True.



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Maybe like leaving Fatty to play Frodo Baggins in Crickhollow, Gandalf planned to immediately transfer Frodo’s cover identity to a real Underhill at Bree and leave behind yet another decoy for the Enemy, the poor sap.

How many spare cloaks do you think Frodo had?
Or did you think that after Bilbo had to borrow Dwalin's, the family decided never to repeat the incident?



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Of course he didn’t mention them! What prances in The Pony, stays in The Pony!

First they chomp
Then they stomp
Then they stand still.



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Obviously this guy learned his cover much better than Mr. Underhill.

He took lessons from the Master of fifth columnists.



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I remember the Republicans who bolted the party to vote Democratic in the 1884 US Presidential election. They were called “Mugwumps”...

'You remember?' said sador, speaking his thought aloud in his astonishment. 'But I thought,' he stammered as Darkstone turned towards him, 'I thought that the fall of James G. Blaine was a long age ago.'



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Another ale shuts him up. He knows his priorities. As does Butterbur.

If only TPTB knew my priorities half as well, you wouldn't be saddled with so many posts to answer!

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