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RHYME TIME - Quiz II
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dormouse
Half-elven


Jan 24 2015, 6:51pm

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Or Tindrock? [In reply to] Can't Post

Brains thoroughly racked on this one, but no answer coming through....


a.s.
Valinor


Jan 24 2015, 8:23pm

Post #27 of 47 (1909 views)
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OK then. How about [In reply to] Can't Post

Wreck Erech?

Jeez #10 is hard. Pun intended.

a.s.

"an seileachan"


"A safe fairyland is untrue to all worlds." JRR Tolkien, Letters.



(This post was edited by a.s. on Jan 24 2015, 8:24pm)


Bracegirdle
Valinor


Jan 24 2015, 9:47pm

Post #28 of 47 (1904 views)
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No, but this gives it away. . . somewhat. . . [In reply to] Can't Post

"Stone" TongueSmile




Rembrethil
Tol Eressea


Jan 24 2015, 10:02pm

Post #29 of 47 (1891 views)
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Is #10 [In reply to] Can't Post

Own the Stone?

Call me Rem, and remember, not all who ramble are lost...Uh...where was I?


Bracegirdle
Valinor


Jan 24 2015, 10:04pm

Post #30 of 47 (1894 views)
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Ok, Mouse, Fox and A.S., and Rem...anyone else... [In reply to] Can't Post

I confess that I may be mispronouncing "Erech" ? Crazy

I'm pronouncing it "Air reach" or "Er reach" - with a long last E.

If a more popular pronounciation is "Er wretch"
a.s. wins with "Wreck Erech" Smile Smile

If so, apologies - Angelic I'll give all my answers tomorrow.




(This post was edited by Bracegirdle on Jan 24 2015, 10:05pm)


a.s.
Valinor


Jan 24 2015, 10:16pm

Post #31 of 47 (1887 views)
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I think "air-eck" but [In reply to] Can't Post

I am no Tolkien language scholar. But the way I hear it in my head, Erech rhymes with "wreck"

Can't wait to find out what you had in mind though!

a.s.

"an seileachan"


"A safe fairyland is untrue to all worlds." JRR Tolkien, Letters.



Rembrethil
Tol Eressea


Jan 24 2015, 10:17pm

Post #32 of 47 (1884 views)
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Another go at #10.... [In reply to] Can't Post

Breach Erech?

Defeat Erech?

Beat Erech?

Call me Rem, and remember, not all who ramble are lost...Uh...where was I?


Bracegirdle
Valinor


Jan 24 2015, 10:31pm

Post #33 of 47 (1885 views)
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Hooray Rem. . . [In reply to] Can't Post

Breach Erech is my answer...Smile

But "Defeat" or "Beat" would work too..




Bracegirdle
Valinor


Jan 24 2015, 10:36pm

Post #34 of 47 (1882 views)
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Me too neither - a Tolkien language scholar.. [In reply to] Can't Post

Do any of his languages pronounce 'ch' as 'ck' ?

And is the consensus of 'Erech' "Er wretch" or "Er wreck" ?

Philologists, HELP! CrazyCrazy




Rembrethil
Tol Eressea


Jan 24 2015, 10:58pm

Post #35 of 47 (1878 views)
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In the pronunciation guide in the LotR appendices... [In reply to] Can't Post

ch is said to always have the same sound as in the Scottish 'loch'.

Is this another conspiracy? Scotland...Loch Ness...The Watcher in the Water...Nessie! Was that you!! Shocked

Call me Rem, and remember, not all who ramble are lost...Uh...where was I?


Bracegirdle
Valinor


Jan 24 2015, 11:19pm

Post #36 of 47 (1876 views)
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Well that shettles it.. I goofed – ouch! (that’s owck of course). [In reply to] Can't Post

   Going nuts.. Pirate

Erwreck it is! "I reads what I reads, I'm Popeye the Shailor Man." Tongue

*ducks under desk in utter humiliation*

We have a lake in McCall, Idaho with a ‘Watcher Monster’ named Sharlie.




Bracegirdle
Valinor


Jan 25 2015, 1:54pm

Post #37 of 47 (1867 views)
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Rhyme Time – Quiz II - The Answers - To ALL [In reply to] Can't Post

(Note on #10. When I read first LOTR about 46 years ago I pronounced Erech ‘Er eech’ (in my head). After several dozen readings this pronunciation was ingrained (even though I soon knew it was wrong after reading the appendix, as has been brought back to my attention by A.S. et al). As Tolkien tells us in Appendix E, CH is only used to represent the sound heard in bach (in german or Welsh)…, and the ‘E’ should be pronounced as in ‘were’. Thus it seems “Er wreck” or “Air wreck” is closer to the mark, though possibly not in the money(?), and apologies to those who worked hard to solve this one.)

Bunches of thanks to all those who played. I hope it was fun. Smile

1. Where wolves are taken for a necropsy *** A warg morgue
2. A lone land depression *** A single dingle
3. A Drúedan proboscis *** A Wose nose
4. A scorched descendant of Girion *** A charred Bard
5. It’s raining on the talan *** A wet flet

6. A fair-haired siege engine *** A blonde Grond
7. “Get lost, Gamgee!” *** “Scram Sam!”
8. A street named after the Master of Shire-moot *** Thain Lane
9. A dull-witted Baggins *** Dodo Frodo
10. Overcome the Rock *** Breach Erech

11. Kingdoms of Hammerhand *** Helm’s realms
12. An Esgaroth biscuit getaway *** A cram lam (or scram)
13. A playground in Eastfold *** A Mark park
14. Legend of an Erebor city *** A Dale tale
15. Jack of all trades and mill owner *** Handyman Sandyman




dormouse
Half-elven


Jan 25 2015, 2:27pm

Post #38 of 47 (1862 views)
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No apologies needed Bracegirdle, that was fun! [In reply to] Can't Post

I thought this was going to be a pronunciation thing and was trying to second-guess how you might be pronouncing any Tolkien stone, hill or rock to make it rhyme with vanquish, or beat, or defeat, or overwhelm, or recover....

Unfortunately, none of 'em did! A phrase springs to mind about barking, tree and wrong.... Crazy


a.s.
Valinor


Jan 25 2015, 2:42pm

Post #39 of 47 (1868 views)
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#2 where was my brain? [In reply to] Can't Post

That was a good quiz. For someone who pronounced Cirith and Celeborn as though they started with the letter S for many readings prior to ever reading the Appendices or hearing them pronounced correctly, I can relate to the whole Erech problem.

Smile

a.s.

"an seileachan"


"A safe fairyland is untrue to all worlds." JRR Tolkien, Letters.



Bracegirdle
Valinor


Jan 25 2015, 10:14pm

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Me too… A.S. [In reply to] Can't Post

on the ‘S’ with Cirith; Celeborn; Cirdan Celebrian etc. But these are Sindarin.
Kirith; Keleborn; Kirdan; Kelebrian, and just don’t have as pleasant of a sound to me.

Then there are occasional words with the ‘s’ sound such as Citadel.

But if seems most words starting with ‘c’ like Causeway or Caverns have the ‘k’ sound.

It bebothers and befuddles the mind; Crazy I still can’t get Seleborn or Sirdan, or Sirith out of my head!!




Ruxendil_Thoorg
Tol Eressea


Jan 26 2015, 3:10am

Post #41 of 47 (1848 views)
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Thanks Bracegirdle! [In reply to] Can't Post

That was a fun round, a well thought out game as always.
for #2 I was thinking hole as in Hobbit hole and stopped there, but I should have kept brainstorming for something more explicitly Tolkienian. #10 had me utterly stumped. Well done! Cool

***

He was born of mortal frailty mixed with Elven fallen realm,
Comin’ home to a land he’d never been before.
Arvernian behind him, sailed the seas of Middle-earth,
You might say he didn’t know what lay in store.

When his wife came out to find him she'd been turned into a bird,
Upon her breast there shone a shining star,
So he took her to his bosom, and by morn her form returned,
And he shifted West to find the high Valar.

And in Valinor he went before the high,
In doing so, resigned himself to die.
Take up arms against the Shadow, asked he of the high,
of the Valar high. (Fight, fight the Shadow)
of the Valar high. (Fight, fight the Shadow)

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Bracegirdle
Valinor


Jan 26 2015, 1:48pm

Post #42 of 47 (1845 views)
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Your welcome Rux. "Well done!" I can't ask for more than that. :) [In reply to] Can't Post

 




Meneldor
Valinor


Jan 26 2015, 11:11pm

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Maybe you can't, but we can. When's the next one? [In reply to] Can't Post


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I can't ask for more than that. :)



They that go down to the sea in ships, that do business in great waters, these see the works of the Lord, and His wonders in the deep. -Psalm 107


Bracegirdle
Valinor


Jan 27 2015, 4:06am

Post #44 of 47 (1831 views)
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Ask and it shall be given. . . [In reply to] Can't Post

Rhyme Time Pt. III - THE FINALE

Probably Thurs. or Fri. AM (Mtn. Time)

Thanks. Meneldor SmileSmile




dormouse
Half-elven


Jan 27 2015, 8:34am

Post #45 of 47 (1824 views)
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Oh good - count me in! :-) // [In reply to] Can't Post

 


Longbottom Leaf
Lorien


Jan 28 2015, 2:48am

Post #46 of 47 (1812 views)
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I love these! Thanks for the wordy gurdy Bracegirdle! [In reply to] Can't Post

1. Warg morgue
2. Isolation desolation?
3. Seriously?
4. Charred Bard
5. ???


6. Blond Grond
7. Scram Sam!
8. Thain lane
9. Dodo Frodo
10. ???


11. Helm's realms
12. Lake cake?
13. Riddermark park
14. Dale tale
15. Handyman Sandyman
Alright! I'm pretty sure I got 10/15. Not too bad! If my two guesses were correct then 12/15. Even better! The other 3...I have noooo idea! Good bit of fun this was!

The finest weed in the southfarthing!


Bracegirdle
Valinor


Jan 28 2015, 3:54am

Post #47 of 47 (1832 views)
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Thanks for playing Longbottom . . . [In reply to] Can't Post

All answers can be found on my post #37 (flat mode)

#2 incorrect Mad
#3 yes, seriously
#12 Nice try - rhymes well but a better answer Cool

Looks like 11 good ones, giving credit for #12

Darn good effort... SmileSmile Look for my last Rhyme Time Thurs. or Fri.



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