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Andreorn89
The Shire
Dec 25 2014, 2:03am
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What do you think of this wonderful character? unfortunately has very little screen time, but at the level of design is perfect and at the level of characterization has very big potential! I hope that we will see more extended edition also because I believe holes screen and its design so special is spectacular (beard with fangs and hair by applause) I believe it is objectively the most successful among the Dwarves without detracting from the other, what do you think?
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Elizabeth
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Dec 25 2014, 2:25am
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For the three seconds we saw him, he looked terrific, but there was zero character on display. And the pig was absurd. No one would ride for a minute on that thing, let alone into battle. Somebody was just going down a list of improbable animals for characters to ride and didn't know when to stop.
Such a wonderful opportunity to see Dain & co,, but totally wasted, I'm afraid.
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Old Toby
Grey Havens
Dec 25 2014, 2:36am
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I didn't expect I would care for Dain
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But I loved him! I loved his personality, his voice and his tremendous War Hog! And I thought his design was absolutely perfect, especially with the little tusks woven into his beard! 
"Age is always advancing and I'm fairly sure it's up to no good." Harry Dresden (Jim Butcher)
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Ruxendil_Thoorg
Tol Eressea
Dec 25 2014, 4:09am
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Here's what I thought (heads up: get ready for some Black Sabbath)
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I thought his design and performance rocked. A quintessential Dwarf warrior with an attitude.
Also, he reminded me of a certain classic metal song. So I wrote a tribute, with that tune in mind. I call it:
-IRONFOOT-
(A tribute to
Dáin II Ironfoot, and
Billy Connolly’s performance of the character, in the latest movie, to the tune of (Iron Man, Black Sabbath)
(Spoken loudly in thick Scottish accent:)
I am Ironfoot!
(Sung:)
Has he lost his mind?
With his helmet is he blind?
Mounted, riding tall,
Though the piggy's rather small.
Azog should be dead,
Book says this guy took his head.
We’ll just pass it there,
Most filmgoers hardly care.
He, with spine of steel,
Leads his Dwarves onto the field.
Hail from Iron mines,
Come to aid of Durin’s kind.
Thorin had called him,
Swift his raven did soar,
Planning his defense
From armies outside of his door.
Now the time is here,
Just one question, pointy-ears,
Pardon to sound rough,
Why don’t you all go SHOVE OFF???
Then, unexpected,
Something makes all turn their heads.
Orcs in formation,
Dáin comes out charging ahead.
Phalanx wall of dread!
Felling foes with his bare head!
Slaying as fast as they can,
Iron Hills leads at the van!
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So, yeah I agree with OP: wonderful! I could envision a spinoff movie with Dain as main character. Just a thought.
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He was born of mortal frailty mixed with Elven fallen realm,
Comin’ home to a land he’d never been before.
Arvernian behind him, sailed the seas of Middle-earth,
You might say he didn’t know what lay in store.
When his wife came out to find him she'd been turned into a bird,
Upon her breast there shone a shining star,
So he took her to his bosom, and by morn her form returned,
And he shifted West to find the high Valar.
And in Valinor he went before the high,
In doing so, resigned himself to die.
Take up arms against the Shadow, asked he of the high,
of the Valar high. (Fight, fight the Shadow)
of the Valar high. (Fight, fight the Shadow)
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DanielLB
Immortal
Dec 25 2014, 5:08am
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Don't forget the head bashing.
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Who knew Orcs were so delicate?
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DisDwarfWoman
Rivendell
Dec 25 2014, 5:21am
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Especially loved him insulting Thranduil and his smirk!
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ecthelionsbeard
Lorien
Dec 25 2014, 7:01am
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The initial close up on his face is clearly CGI but I'm having a hard time believing all subsequent shots of him (in the heat of battle, when he embraces Thorin, etc) are CGI. He looks very real to me, aside from that first shot of his face. Why oh why couldn't they have spent a little more time on that. One of my favorite characters for sure.
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NecromancerRising
Gondor
Dec 25 2014, 8:24am
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An instant favourite since my first viewing
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I would really want to see more of him.
"You cannot find peace by avoiding life"
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BlackFox
Half-elven
Dec 25 2014, 10:18am
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You did it again, Rux. Bravo!
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BlackCountry
Rivendell
Dec 25 2014, 10:30am
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This needs to be recorded lol! Can use footage of Dain in battle once the EE comes out!! ;)
I do not want what it is not mine.... I only want what comes from within....
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ShireHorse
Rohan
Dec 25 2014, 10:59am
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The boar isn't so stupid, Elizabeth.
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I don't think that PJ & Co pull things out of the hat just to be ridiculous. The ride-on boar is out of Norse myth. When the god, Freyr, wants to get around, he will ride on his boar named Gullinbursti. His boar travels quicker than any horse. Occasionally he makes the boar pull a chariot with him on it. Gullinbursti was a gift from a DWARF named Brokkr whose name means 'metal-worker' and so the dwarves obviously made use of such animals.
Me? I loved Dain - and his boar. He really made me laugh.
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MedwedtoBeorn
Rivendell
Dec 25 2014, 12:13pm
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I hope we get much more of him in the EE. Definitely one of my favorite things from the movie.
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mo0on-light
The Shire
Dec 25 2014, 12:39pm
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even his scene wasn't that long maybe only 5 minutes.. but i totally like him billy is one of my fav actor and he have great sense of humor..dain become one of my fav dwarves so far
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Elarie
Grey Havens
Dec 25 2014, 2:40pm
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Thank you for that info, ShireHorse
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I really enjoy seeing the connections between Tolkien (or the related things in the movies) and Norse mythology. You inspired me to get out my book on Norse mythology and look up Gullinbursti (Golden Bristle - very cool!), and I discovered that his alternate name is Slidrugtanni (Dangerous Tooth), which seems very appropriate for a boar. And even more interesting, there's another somewhat mysterious character connected to Freyja named Hildisvini (Battle-Pig - how perfect). For me, these kinds of things add even more depth and interest to the stories. Thanks!
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Gold is the strife of kinsmen,
and fire of the flood-tide,
and the path of the serpent.
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Ruxendil_Thoorg
Tol Eressea
Dec 25 2014, 3:01pm
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That would be a fun project. 
If anybody has the inclination to contribute their efforts something like that, I'd be happy to supply the lyrics. 
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He was born of mortal frailty mixed with Elven fallen realm,
Comin’ home to a land he’d never been before.
Arvernian behind him, sailed the seas of Middle-earth,
You might say he didn’t know what lay in store.
When his wife came out to find him she'd been turned into a bird,
Upon her breast there shone a shining star,
So he took her to his bosom, and by morn her form returned,
And he shifted West to find the high Valar.
And in Valinor he went before the high,
In doing so, resigned himself to die.
Take up arms against the Shadow, asked he of the high,
of the Valar high. (Fight, fight the Shadow)
of the Valar high. (Fight, fight the Shadow)
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Ruxendil_Thoorg
Tol Eressea
Dec 25 2014, 3:02pm
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*bow*
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He was born of mortal frailty mixed with Elven fallen realm,
Comin’ home to a land he’d never been before.
Arvernian behind him, sailed the seas of Middle-earth,
You might say he didn’t know what lay in store.
When his wife came out to find him she'd been turned into a bird,
Upon her breast there shone a shining star,
So he took her to his bosom, and by morn her form returned,
And he shifted West to find the high Valar.
And in Valinor he went before the high,
In doing so, resigned himself to die.
Take up arms against the Shadow, asked he of the high,
of the Valar high. (Fight, fight the Shadow)
of the Valar high. (Fight, fight the Shadow)
* * *
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Otaku-sempai
Immortal
Dec 25 2014, 3:24pm
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The 'battle-pig' was a misfire
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The beast should have been more of a classic wild boar. Otherwise, my only complaint is that we didn't get any Dain after the battle.
'There are older and fouler things than Orcs in the deep places of the world.' - Gandalf the Grey, The Fellowship of the Ring
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Glorfindela
Valinor
Dec 25 2014, 5:32pm
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Very interesting, ShireHorse – thank you
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I thought the boar was a unique idea and that it worked really well (apart from its death, that is, which I didn't like).
I don't think that PJ & Co pull things out of the hat just to be ridiculous. The ride-on boar is out of Norse myth. When the god, Freyr, wants to get around, he will ride on his boar named Gullinbursti. His boar travels quicker than any horse. Occasionally he makes the boar pull a chariot with him on it. Gullinbursti was a gift from a DWARF named Brokkr whose name means 'metal-worker' and so the dwarves obviously made use of such animals.
Me? I loved Dain - and his boar. He really made me laugh.
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Oleander Took
Rivendell
Dec 25 2014, 6:12pm
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you know a character is well characterized if the moment they appear they fit and belong without forcing it, you take to them and want to see more of them. He ticked all those boxes, pity we didn't have more of him! 
Would have exchanged time from others to have more of him!
"The closer you to get to light, the greater your shadow becomes"
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ecthelionsbeard
Lorien
Dec 25 2014, 7:02pm
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feel a 'Charles Dickens' ghost of Christmas present influence in Dain's design? 
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It's obvious
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