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KingTurgon
Rohan
Dec 24 2014, 8:13pm
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Post your EE wishlist here!
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I'll start with mine!
*My list is not meant to be all-encompassing
- Guardians of the Three Prologue
- More Smaug/Lake-town
- Beorn torture scene
- Longer Dol Guldur scene
- Saruman/Sauron scene
- Radagast gives Gandalf his staff
- A Thief in the Night (Bilbo and Bofur)
- Azog's army
- Elf arrows vs Dwarf ballistae
- Dwarf ram riders
- Thorin's justification
- Dwarf charge
- Moment for:
- Bifur (Axe)
- Bombur (Talking)
- More Beorn
- Funeral scene
- Dain's coronation
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BlackFox
Half-elven
Dec 24 2014, 8:31pm
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... is the funeral scene and more Beorn. The rest will all be a bonus.
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Thrain II
Lorien
Dec 24 2014, 8:34pm
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more Beorn and Heirs funeral is a must, but it would be nice to see Dain's coronation, more dwarf company in the battle, and more Dol Guldur. 
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Thrain II
Lorien
Dec 24 2014, 8:35pm
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I wrote almost exactly the same post, then rewrote it to add more, and almost in the same time you posted, weird 
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BlackFox
Half-elven
Dec 24 2014, 8:38pm
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You know what they say about great minds. 
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NecromancerRising
Gondor
Dec 24 2014, 8:49pm
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1)An approximately 2 minutes extended Lake Town
2) Sauron interrogating Gandalf about the Three Rings
3)The Funeral Scene and the resolution of Arkenstone
4)Beorn as a character,more Beorn in battle
5)More interaction between Dwarves
6) A tighter editiong of the Battle before Ravenhill
7) A clearer resolution of the battle
8)More of Dain Ironfoot
Everything else would be more than welcome of course.
"You cannot find peace by avoiding life"
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MechaGodzilla
Rivendell
Dec 24 2014, 8:49pm
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I'll give it a try, borrowing some of yours
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- A prologue, any prologue
- More Smaug attacking Lake-town
- More of the White Council vs. Sauron in Dol Guldur
- More Radagast
- More Beorn, I'll take anything but especially in the battle
- More of the Gundabad army, they arrive and then are pretty much instantly defeated/cut away from in the film as it is now, I want to see a lot more
- More Bolg, preferably being killed by Beorn, but as I realize that's unrealistic I'd be satisfied with more Bolg vs. Legolas, something felt off, like his defeat was just a bit "too easy", as my brother put it
- Moments for all the dwarves that got lost a bit in the theatrical cut
- The funeral
- Dáin's coronation
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Thrain II
Lorien
Dec 24 2014, 8:50pm
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Elarie
Grey Havens
Dec 24 2014, 9:03pm
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I'm still a little bit stunned that it wasn't in the movie. Out of all three movies, leaving out the funeral scene at the end has to top my list of 'weird decisions'. Other than that, more time with the dwarves would be great.
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Gold is the strife of kinsmen,
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and the path of the serpent.
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Avandel
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Dec 24 2014, 9:08pm
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- More Thorin. I don't care, he's my favorite. There can never be too much Thorin. Ever. 
- Have some sort of brief mention of the ravens and the house of Durin. I know WE know, but think it could be made a BIT more clear in the film that the birds are motifs of the house of Durin, and there is a close connection. (Tho I was unbelievably happy to see ravens, as I didn't think they were going to show up at all... ) Balin does allude to the birds, but I would like just a line or two more.
- More dwarves! more dwarves! SOME interaction of some kind, the Balin and Dwalin scenes were wonderful, we don't even get these close brothers having a conversation, like, which would be logical - like Fili
asking "what's up with you and that elf?" Something!
- the promised (or at least talked about in earlier articles) battle moment for each and every dwarf
- Beorn - all this time I thought they had been lovingly working on battle scenes with him *frown*
- Thorin RALLYING the army - which would be a major change, but scenes were switched out in the DOS EE and I can't believe they wouldn't have filmed Thorin doing that.
- More Dain, I don't care how.
- More Thranduil fighting, up close - I mean as a fighter he's supposed to be a "game changer" and all...
- Put back the scene re "everything I did, I did for them..."
And for me, they can cut down or delete the Legolas/Tauriel Gundabad scene - zzzzzzzzz.
Hó , Það sé ég föður minn
Hó , Það sé ég móður mína, og Hó, Það sé ég bræður mínir og systur mínar
Hó , Það sé ég mitt fólk aftur í byrjun
Hó, gera Þeir kalla til mín, og bjóða mér að taka minn stað meðal þeirra í sölum Valhallar
Hvar hugrakkir mun lifa að eilífu
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NecromancerRising
Gondor
Dec 24 2014, 9:10pm
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I really liked the Gundabad scene with Legolas and Tauriel. Cut down Alfrid a bit instead
"You cannot find peace by avoiding life"
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Avandel
Half-elven
Dec 24 2014, 9:19pm
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LOL yessss *grins*...my Alfrid!
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I love Alfrid. OK, the movie was a TAD heavy-handed over what a weasel he is , but still he did, I think, give Luke Evans something to play off of. The movie doesn't make much of it,
but I think having to deal with someone honest and good must have been baffling to Alfrid.
(And I was wondering if Alfrid would have one of those *cough* heartwarming, if trope moment, where he has a complete change of heart - guess not.)
I liked the fortress in Gundabad, which IMO was a totally cool design - still suspecting that may have been a del Toro concept. It was SO stark.
Hó , Það sé ég föður minn
Hó , Það sé ég móður mína, og Hó, Það sé ég bræður mínir og systur mínar
Hó , Það sé ég mitt fólk aftur í byrjun
Hó, gera Þeir kalla til mín, og bjóða mér að taka minn stað meðal þeirra í sölum Valhallar
Hvar hugrakkir mun lifa að eilífu
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CathrineB
Rohan
Dec 24 2014, 9:33pm
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+ Fili and other dwarves
+ Not more Legolas
+ Funeral
+ Notching up the epic music moments for heaven's sake! I can't for the life of me understand why they cut down on the music (volume, some moments the music is there, but you can hardly hear it) so much which is such a huge part of the tolkien univerrse!
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Dwarewien
Rohan
Dec 24 2014, 9:34pm
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This is pretty much my list as well...
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- More Thorin. I don't care, he's my favorite. There can never be too much Thorin. Ever. - Have some sort of brief mention of the ravens and the house of Durin. I know WE know, but think it could be made a BIT more clear in the film that the birds are motifs of the house of Durin, and there is a close connection. (Though I was unbelievably happy to see ravens, as I didn't think they were going to show up at all... ) Balin does allude to the birds, but I would like just a line or two more. - More dwarves! more dwarves! SOME interaction of some kind, the Balin and Dwalin scenes were wonderful, we don't even get these close brothers having a conversation, like, which would be logical - like Fili asking "what's up with you and that elf?" Something! - the promised (or at least talked about in earlier articles) battle moment for each and every dwarf - Beorn - all this time I thought they had been lovingly working on battle scenes with him *frown* - Thorin RALLYING the army - which would be a major change, but scenes were switched out in the DOS EE and I can't believe they wouldn't have filmed Thorin doing that. - Put back the scene re "everything I did, I did for them..."
"Will you follow me... one last time?"
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Spriggan
Tol Eressea
Dec 24 2014, 9:47pm
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But confused about the rallying. Isn't that already in?
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I thought Thorin charging out turned the morale of the troops and we have Gandalf(?) saying that up they are rallying to the king. Or am I misremembering?
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BlackFox
Half-elven
Dec 24 2014, 9:55pm
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... Dain's "To the King! To the King!"
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nymmerod
The Shire
Dec 24 2014, 9:57pm
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I haven't seen mentioned here yet is the Dwarven rings subplot which has been a part of the previous 2 EEs... it would be nice to have a brief continuation of that.
Aside from that I just want tons more Beorn and some closure on Radagast and Tauriel and a funeral/coronation wrap up.
http://www.eurobricks.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=96226
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Sharkey
The Shire
Dec 24 2014, 10:26pm
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The funeral- Bard laying the Arkenstone with Thorin (i'm still surprised this one shot didn't make the TE; they didn't have to show the whole procession, but the Arkenstone resolution would have been nice.)
Bilbo planting the acorn at Bag End. (I would have made this the time jump transition. After the ring scene, young Bilbo shakes off his worries and buries the acorn, which we see grow into the party tree as old Bilbo looks out his window and then sits at the map.)
Bofur letting Bilbo leave Erebor. (call back to the Gobln Tunnels)
Beorn, of course.
ANYTHING with Saruman. (I was thinking a White Council debriefing in Rivendell, but Galadriel and Elrond are given a proper send-off.)
Legolas losing track of Bolg (horse chase) after DOS.
Seems like a fair amount of Alfrid scenes were more suited to the EE (so hopefully the EE doesn't add anything else for him).
I thought we got plenty of Dain, but... I don't require a grandiose coronation, but simply some sort of indication that he'll be taking over.
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Avandel
Half-elven
Dec 24 2014, 10:29pm
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No, but gaawwgh, I can't find this image...
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I know I saw it, looked like it came from the BOFA Annual 2015 (don't have all the companion books), but Thorin is standing with the raised dwarf sword, looking down, and there's a text overlay "We are the Sons of Durin, and Durin folk do not flee from a fight!" E.g., from this kind of "leak" in children's book at the time, I assumed that there would be a/the rallying speech.
Come to think of it, while I wouldn't object to that (especially with Thorin's magnificent voice), perhaps that is why in the film PJ went in a different, and IMO very cool, direction, as opposed to doing another Braveheart kind of approach. Tho I still would love another Thorin-speech. Thorin on the wall, wind perfectly swirling his espresso mane, voice soaring across the battlefield, fire in his eyes *sigh*.
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Avandel
Half-elven
Dec 24 2014, 10:58pm
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I'm not big on the funeral scene either
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Seeing Bilbo with Thorin hurts enough, and I am not sure any more honor could be given than the love of a friend. For some it seems, the Durins deserve that respect (without a doubt!).
For others, it seems to be a need for closure, but over the long term I don't see myself as closing anything, really, seeing for me these films are more about the journey than anything, and the unlikely bond that forms between the Mountain King and this little hobbit.
Can't we have an alternate ending instead?
Sure! Not one that PJ films, exactly, but then again after all the *cough* ALTERATIONS PJ & co. felt were appropriate I see no problem at all with rewriting any ending you like
in your head.
Life (and ME) are better with the Durins in it, and having sat through the sorrow 3 times and probably more before it leaves theaters, perhaps, it's time for an alternate universe
ending of sorts. And I imagine, in any case, that sooner or later someone is going to re-film the Hobbit, and change the ending anyway, even more than PJ.
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mirkwoodwanderer
Lorien
Dec 24 2014, 11:16pm
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Just more of everything a bit..
and the funeral
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Riven Delve
Tol Eressea
Dec 25 2014, 12:08am
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...Thorin's funeral, of course, which could resolve not only the Arkenstone subplot but the Orcrist subplot too (Legolas acknowledges Thorin's right to it). Maybe even a hint that Dain will now become king to resolve the "line of Durin" subplot.
...mourning for Fili and Kili too
...Beorn in battle
...interaction among the "minor" Dwarves. Also more with Thorin-Fili
...results of the battle (we're pretty sure the good guys won...)
...what happens to Tauriel
...clarity on why Legolas can't go back
...I want the war-elk to make a miraculous recovery
...darn it, I want Thranduil to get his necklace back and mellow a tad
I wouldn't mind seeing how Gandalf gets Radagast's staff...or how he gets his hat back. 
There's more I want to see, but I can't think of it all at the moment!
“Tollers,” Lewis said to Tolkien, “there is too little of what we really like in stories. I am afraid we shall have to try and write some ourselves.”
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Kim
Valinor
Dec 25 2014, 12:56am
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I never really got the impression that this would be part of a rallying speech, more of just a general PR image. Although, I suppose I could see this as something Thorin could have said in response to Kili's "will not let others fight our battles for us" line, but they opted to go for the quieter response instead.
Thorin on the wall, wind perfectly swirling his espresso mane, voice soaring across the battlefield, fire in his eyes *sigh*.
I do like this image though.
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BalrogTrainer
Rivendell
Dec 25 2014, 2:34am
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- Some sort of prologue, preferably Thorin trying to convince Dáin to help him reclaim Erebor, ending with some sort of reference to Smaug in order to segue back to Lake-town's imminent destruction.
- More of the Dol Guldur scene.
- All trailer moments not seen in film: Elves shooting arrows at Dwarves, Dwarves riding rams into battle, Wargs chasing a few of Thorin's Dwarves in a wooden chariot on frozen lake, etc.
- More Óin, Glóin, Dori, Nori, Ori, Bifur, Bofur, Bombur, and, considering his fate, Fíli especially.
- More Beorn... and more of him and the Eagles turning the tide in the battle.
- Thorin/Fíli/Kíli funeral, with Thorin being buried with Orcrist and the Arkenstone (Bard making a last-minute decision to put it into his coffin would be a nice touch).
- Dáin's coronation... and possibly some sort of makeshift coronation for Bard as well (would be a good opportunity to re-align the two kingdoms).
- Some sort of closure for Tauriel's character.
- Some sort of explanation as to why Radagast sits out the even-more-important events of LOTR (and a clearer handing over of his staff to Gandalf).
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Glorfindela
Valinor
Dec 25 2014, 2:48am
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1. More Beorn character moments, perhaps including Gandalf and Bilbo stopping of at Beorn's place on the way home.
2. Thranduil closure, including finally explaining the white gems (there is no reason given in the film as to why the gems are so important to Thranduil).
3. Bard closure.
4. Funeral at the end.
5. Arkenstone closure.
6. Anything more about Thorin.
7. More Dain.
8. Confirmation that the elk is not actually dead, but only wounded would be nice.
However, no more grossness, violence (barring some graceful moves from the stunning Thranduil), silly stunts, Legolas or Tauriel (although I suppose the latter can be in the background of a scene with Thranduil).
I really, really hope PJ delivers on this – feel it is far more important to get the EE right for this film than for the others.
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