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Hamfast Gamgee
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Dec 21 2014, 10:40pm
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The feel of the ending
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I don't know about anyone else, but I got the impression that the ending was a bit sombre compared to other endings in the ME movies. There wasn't any of the 'One good person can triumph against all evil,' feel to it. In fact, Bilbo looks quite grieved when he and Gandalf sit together after the battle. Also, at the final scenes, Bilbo doesn't look overjoyed either. It's a little different than in the book.
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Aragorn the Elfstone
Tol Eressea
Dec 21 2014, 10:45pm
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Actually it seems to me that's exactly the feel of the book.
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The ending of the book is not all happy-go-lucky. And once you factor in the events to come in the Lord of the Rings, it's even less so. I was actually more pleased with the ending than anything else in the film.
"The danger with any movie that does as well as this one does is that the amount of money it's making and the number of awards that it's got becomes almost more important than the movie itself in people's minds. I look at that as, in a sense, being very much like the Ring, and its effect on people. You know, you can kind of forget what we were doing, if you get too wrapped up in that." - Viggo Mortensen
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hobbitylass
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Dec 21 2014, 10:53pm
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Remember how the trilogy began
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with Bilbo asking Gandalf "can you promise that I will come back?" and Gandalf replying "No. And if you do, you will not be the same." The ending shows just how different Bilbo is as a result of his adventures. I think the tone fits for how the journey was set up.
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Bombadil
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Dec 21 2014, 10:57pm
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" The LOTR ENDS in weddings (Aragorn&Arwen..And ...Sam&Rosie) But The Hobbit Ends in a Funeral..." We haven't seen that yet... BUT it will There Next year... "That's promise, a Promise PJ intendzzz to Keep" bom
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Aranarth
The Shire
Dec 21 2014, 11:13pm
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Indeed, I believe that the way it was ended was just right.
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Ham_Sammy
Tol Eressea
Dec 21 2014, 11:22pm
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Was bittersweet at the end with Frodo taking his leave of his friends to sail into the West. The quest to destroy the Ring was complete, but Frodo was not the same, just as Bilbo was not the same either for having been a Ringbearer. None of it is totally happy at the end.
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Eruonen
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Dec 21 2014, 11:58pm
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I think the end was very well done.
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Bilbo just got back from the most life changing "adventure" a hobbit could imagine and lost dear friends in the process. Some melancholy along with a trashed house were perfect for showing the impact on his personal life. The cut to the older Bilbo nicely tied the films to The LOTRs.
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glor
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Dec 22 2014, 2:30am
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The end is fitting and very Tolkien
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LOTR was written after WWII, with it's evil enemy, a war fought out of necessity that ended in victory and glory. The Hobbit however, was written after WWI and before WWII, it contains the themes of a battle fought because of the vanity and ego of kings, that ended in pointless loss and almost every soldier, losing a comrade and friend, almost every mother losing her sons. I thought the ending of BOTFA was stunning, it captured that difference between The Hobbit and LOTR. Omitting the funeral was a good move IMHO, it removed any ceremony, the visual impact of which, no matter how sombre, would have detracted from the personal loss that permeated the film from Thorin's death. What added to my amazement was it was not the ending I expect from PJ. I anticipated a funeral scene, crowning of Kings and leaders and the victory of those that survived, that is PJ isn't it, visual spectacle, don't do quiet when you can go (almost) OTT. Instead, we had PJ proving he can do melancholy, delicate and understated and, in doing so gave us something so sublimely Tolkien it blew me away. the tears rolling down my cheeks were not just for our deceased dwarves, but for the spirit of Tolkien felt on screen in a deep emotional way.
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glor
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Dec 22 2014, 2:37am
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I thought that scene was absolutely stunning
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Hardly a word and, Mckellan, just demonstrating why he is one of the finest actors on the planet by, dressing up as a wizard and lighting a pipe for a film. I didn't even notice the transformation of Freeman into Holms, I was too busy watching Bilbo reminiscing about his adventure whilst looking at his map and I Like Bilbo, was rudely awakened from my memories by Gandalf unexpectedly knocking on the door.
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Eruonen
Half-elven
Dec 22 2014, 5:25am
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Indeed, him fiddling with cleaning his pipe bowl, looking a little frustrated and
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Bilbo watching him and slowly coming around from post battle shock was supremely handled.
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