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Scourge of the Stoors
Rivendell
Dec 18 2014, 3:58pm
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Is this the most disturbing ME battle ever put to film?
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The bodies on the ground, the hopelessness and frustration we feel at Thorin as he refuses to fight with his kin. The way the Laketowners get slaughtered along with the Elves protecting them. The amount of blood! Seriously, maybe it was the contrast with the snow, but I think this is the most blood we've ever seen in the saga.
Dead people, everywhere. These orcs come off as more effective than any we've seen previously.
The arrival of the Eagles felt so belated, akin to a scene in a movie where the hero rescues a major character from being killed, but not before that character gets paralyzed in a fight.
This really feels like the most harrowing battle in all of the movies.
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Carne
Tol Eressea
Dec 18 2014, 4:03pm
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I wouldn't say it was very bloody
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Heads were cut off left and right without a single drop of blood, and swords remain shiny even after goint through an orc's torso. As they discussed in the Empire podcast, why even try to make the battle look gory when you can't have any blood whatsoever. The dead elves being an exeption as we don't actually see them bleed, just that's it on the snow.
I wonder if they just got away with more back when doing LOTR, as I can't imagine Jackson shying away from some blood.
(This post was edited by Carne on Dec 18 2014, 4:04pm)
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Scourge of the Stoors
Rivendell
Dec 18 2014, 4:10pm
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Yes, there was lots of bloodless dismemberment in this one, but the camera never lingered on things that seemed like they need to bleed like it did in two separate lotr occasions
1. The Lurtz battle. When his arm gets cut off, there is absolutely no blood, and it looks pretty fake
2. The fell beast getting its head chopped off. If I recall correctly, it was all meat and no blood. Looked like a bone-in steak
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Ham_Sammy
Tol Eressea
Dec 18 2014, 6:15pm
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The MPAA here in the states has pretty strict rules on the depiction of blood. If there is any substantial lingering or depiction of it graphically the film will get an R vs. a PG13 rating.
Thank you for your questions, now go sod off and do something useful - Martin Freeman Twitter chat 3/1/13
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FrogmortonJustice65
Lorien
Dec 18 2014, 8:45pm
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IMO, some of the darkest moments in the whole 6 part series occur during that sequence. The launching of the decapitated heads...the orcs pillaging Minas Tirith and slaughtering civilians...
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