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MouthofSauron
Tol Eressea
Dec 18 2014, 4:18am
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Anyone else left hanging when Saruman says "leave sauron to me"? SPOILERS
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When sauron fled dol-guldur and you saw his spirit flying through the sky toward mordor was so awesome BUT i wanted more! I wanted to see Saruman actually travel to mordor…
The flames of war are upon you..
(This post was edited by MouthofSauron on Dec 18 2014, 4:19am)
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swordwhale
Tol Eressea
Dec 18 2014, 4:20am
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well, two...
extended edition
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MouthofSauron
Tol Eressea
Dec 18 2014, 4:22am
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are you yanking my chain ??
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Silverlode
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Dec 18 2014, 4:23am
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would not have been consistent with the book. What he did once Sauron retreated to Mordor was immediately begin searching the Gladden Fields for the Ring and they hinted toward that by having Saruman say that Sauron couldn't regain his full strength without it.
I liked it being left the way it was. It leads pretty well into FOTR without telegraphing Saruman's plot line there.
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MouthofSauron
Tol Eressea
Dec 18 2014, 4:25am
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Elrond and Galadriel know sauron is ALIVE AND WELL. Couldn't they knock on saruman's door and be like … hey saruman have you dealt with sauron yet ??
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ghost_matt
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Dec 18 2014, 6:03am
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I too liked that it didn't broadcast Saruman's betrayal from a mile away. As for Gandalf or Galadriel showing up to his door....they already knew at the beginning of Fellowship that Sauron had taken up residence in Mordor, so I don't know what else they could have done? Have Saruman go to Mordor, defeat Sauron, then Sauron returns in the exact same place again 60 years later?
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Bombadil
Half-elven
Dec 18 2014, 10:05am
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Perplexin' Plot Lines, PJ does... Does He NOT?
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sorta like hizz Scripts?,
Re-writes & THEN...Re-Writes SUM MORE!
He really knows how to keep us Guessing...?...!... ??
Tricksey Little Film-Maker.. He izzzz.
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Remus
Lorien
Dec 18 2014, 10:06am
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AND a HUGE MINUS for the whole movie.
In the trailer. You see Saruman say "Leave Sauron to me!" and Sauron stands in his fiery spirit form atop of those stairs.... Meaning they will fight! But no no.... It was not.
I hope Saruman will fight Sauron in the EE or it's FALSE MARKETING!
EDIT: And in that sentence, when Sauron already was banished from Dol Guldur... Leave Sauron to me screamed to me "I will build my own army of orcs and take the Ring for my own and defeat Sauron that way" like he does in the LOTR trilogy.......
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dungolfin
The Shire
Dec 18 2014, 10:21am
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As far as I am concerned this whole battle wizard scenario that PJ has indulged diminishes their power. They are Istari, the movers and shakers in Middle Earth, they don't run around beating the crap out of each other. These characters should be way more subtle than PJ has handled them at times. The DolGuldur duel sequences and the portrayal of Sauron in DoSmaug were much better, more menacing, but as soon as we get spinning wizards and the bish, bash, bosh Yoda treatment the gravitas is lost.
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Spriggan
Tol Eressea
Dec 18 2014, 10:51am
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I'm not sure interpreting a trailer as a series of sequentially linked scenes
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Is the fault of false marketing!
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adt100
Rohan
Dec 18 2014, 11:18am
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This was one of the only real spoilers I'd read going into the film...
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... and actually I thought it worked well. It was left ambiguous, but I believe it worked with the dialogue before. Like most I would like to see more of Dol Guldur and slightly surprised it was wrapped up so early on and so swiftly. It does lead well into FOTR though.
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Mr. Arkenstone (isaac)
Tol Eressea
Dec 18 2014, 11:19am
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Fiery Sauron is not in the movie so I guess in the EE
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and I hope he will remove his damn helmet for once and for all
The flagon with the dragon has the brew that is true
Survivor to the battle for the fifth trailer
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Bombadil
Half-elven
Dec 18 2014, 11:25am
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Phillipa Hints? that DG is LOOOONGER in the PodCast..
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Posted above...30+ minutes of PB
giving us HER Plotlines..
IT's a Must "HEAR"..go there.
Answers to our Questions are there ABOVE..^^^..^^^
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NoelGallagher
Rohan
Dec 18 2014, 12:24pm
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Posted above...30+ minutes of PB
giving us HER Plotlines..
IT's a Must "HEAR"..go there.
Answers to our Questions are there ABOVE..^^^..^^^
bom
she said more stuff concerning the three elven rings is in, but does tha actually mean more Dol Guldur ?! At least i hope so.
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QuackingTroll
Valinor
Dec 18 2014, 12:52pm
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That seems to be the answer to everything...
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But it can't include EVERYTHING. 
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QuackingTroll
Valinor
Dec 18 2014, 12:55pm
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I think Elrond will be in the EE...
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Bilbo and Gandalf visit Rivendell on their way home. We'll get a little Sauron wrap-up there  And maybe... Arwen?  Ohhh he went and said it. 
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mae govannen
Tol Eressea
Dec 18 2014, 1:02pm
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Ohhh, I would just love that!!!
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Any hint of that in any PJ or PB interview???
'Is everything sad going to come untrue?'
(Sam, 'The Field of Cormallen', in 'The Return of the King'.)
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QuackingTroll
Valinor
Dec 18 2014, 1:16pm
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No hints, just speculating. Wouldn't it be fun, though //
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dave_lf
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Dec 18 2014, 1:19pm
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We're supposed to be left hanging
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You learn what happened when you watch Fellowship. And for those who've already seen or read the other trilogy, the line is full of dramatic irony.
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Mad Hatter of Middle-Earth
Lorien
Dec 18 2014, 3:03pm
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i really wanted Saruman to take on Sauron
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But at least we got to see him fight the Nazgul. Its just weird that Saruman is supposed to be more powerful than Gandalf, but Saruman didn't take on Sauron like Gandalf did. Hoping for more in the EE. Also, the editing was a tad weird in that Galadriel vs Sauron fight...
All you have to decide is what to do with the time that has been given to you...
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swordwhale
Tol Eressea
Dec 18 2014, 3:09pm
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...your...
...pain....
I mean, come on, five seconds of skydiving Beorn?
"Judge me by my size, would you?" Max the Hobbit Husky.
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