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Bilbo w/One Ring and Sting vs. Frodo w/One Ring and Sting

Keebler the Elf
Llednevir

Mar 13 2008, 3:11pm

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Now this is interesting. Lets say that each have a One Ring, and they are both wielding Sting. Who would win? Frodo wasn't much of a fighter, but then, he knew of the Ring's True Master, and felt an immense burden when he was Ringbearer. Bilbo was a pretty good fighter for a hobbit, and a very brave hobbit at that. He was Spider-bane and Orc-bane. So take your pick.


Farawyn
NahoR


Mar 14 2008, 12:17am

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In all my years I think this is one battle that I haven't seen.

I'll have to think about it, but my gut reaction was Bilbo.

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nudge
Eerb


Mar 15 2008, 12:53am

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They can't see one another so both run around swinging wildly. Then, Bilbo, the luckiest hafling in history, lops off Frodo's head. That's it.

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7ofEowyn
Erihs Eht


Mar 15 2008, 4:31am

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Frodo ... unless as luck rules the day [In reply to] Can't Post

Bilbo might get that lucky-head-lobbing that Nudge mentioned. But it would be just that ...luck. He'd be wandering around spouting all his titles trying to frighten & madden his apponent (since that trick worked once or twice before) and Frodo would just screw himself up and do the deed. Cool

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Keebler the Elf
Llednevir

Mar 16 2008, 5:48pm

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Ok, now lets try skill. [In reply to] Can't Post

So, who would win if luck wasn't a factor?


7ofEowyn
Erihs Eht


Mar 18 2008, 1:29am

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Without luck involved ... [In reply to] Can't Post

I still say Frodo.

He's been introduced to the idea that the ring is more than just for invisibility ... it can add strength. Also, assuming this altercation occurs at the end of each one's story/time with the ring, Frodo's been traveling with others who fight with swords. Bilbo has only been around folks with axes, not many pointers to be learned there ... not much patience on the part of potential instructors either.

Wow ... way too many reasons came flying to the top of my brain way too fast. We shouldn't be able to think of these things!Evil

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Keebler the Elf
Llednevir

Mar 19 2008, 12:05am

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Bilbo was around people with swords. And he was pretty good with a sword even without any experience. He killed spiders, goblins, and was just a menace with Sting. Frodo on the other hand barely fought at all, and was not too good at it.


7ofEowyn
Erihs Eht


Mar 19 2008, 4:30am

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you lean toward Bilbo as well Wink - more because of the experience with the sword. Ring doesn't make a difference. I can see that. I'd prefer Bilbo to win but still see Frodo doing the deed for some reason.

I've loved this arena battle! what fun! I'll keep watching for more.

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Keebler the Elf
Llednevir

Mar 20 2008, 3:32pm

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Awesome [In reply to] Can't Post

Glad you liked it!!!! Wink


Farawyn
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Mar 20 2008, 9:42pm

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Me too. Bilbo also seems to handle things ina an easier simpler way, where Frodo seems more reluctant- mentally I mean.

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Keebler the Elf
Llednevir

Mar 20 2008, 9:46pm

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If you are talking about the movies, I agree. Books, uhhhh, I'd have to say that Frodo wasn't half as stupid as half of him was in the movies.


7ofEowyn
Erihs Eht


Mar 21 2008, 4:21pm

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I'm beginning to see a trend .... finally [In reply to] Can't Post

Both you and Farawyn see the "pre-ring infested" personage as the over-riding/determining factor. I was only looking at the "post infested". Bilbo gave up the ring on his own & never had the sense of power it could give. Frodo never gave it up (book or movie) it was taken --- He had time to feel that sense of empowerment ... and liked it. Evil Bilbo had already lost/given up the Ring before we see his "fall from grace" as it were. Frodo would seem to have had a quicker ability to access the power, again due to exposure.

Now if the fight lasted any amount of time ... hmmm ... nope, still not changing my mind.Tongue (tee hee) Don't know why, just because.

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Keebler the Elf
Llednevir

Mar 26 2008, 3:56pm

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You know.... [In reply to] Can't Post

But then again, we aren't saying they are infested in this battle. They are just using the Ring against each other. Well, maybe they would have to be infested to do that. Ok, they could be, hmmmm.....


Gaffer Gamgee
Eerb


Apr 24 2008, 2:38am

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You have overlooked a key factor. Thee One ring is the One ring. There cannot be more than one. Therefore, this battle could never have happened. But if you overlook that, I would say Bilbo. He had been more taken over by the Ring, more prone to more violent 'episodes' and so would be more likely to kill the other for the Ring.

Heed the words of the Gaffer. For even if they not be wise, they are worth listening to.


aranelthehobbit22
Rodnog


Feb 16 2010, 2:15am

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Cheers Gaffer! [In reply to] Can't Post

an excellent point!

Though if there were two One Rings Wink I may have to say Frodo, if his strength and will was harnessed for that purpose, that Hobbit could do anything, I mean think about it, he endured the Ring until he couldn't walk anymore, and yet he kept going, crawling up the mountain. True he couldn't destroy the Ring, but at Mt. Doom it was impossible for anyone to resist.
If his will was focused for the purpose of fighting (and yes I know this goes against his character as he hates to fight) i think he would win.



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AncalagontheBlack
NahoR

Jun 29 2013, 3:44pm

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