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Ham_Sammy
Tol Eressea
Dec 16 2014, 6:54am
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And just for the record
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Anyone that think this film was NOT Bilbo centric was asleep. just sayin...I loved Bilbo in this film and it was most definitely THE HOBBIT.
Thank you for your questions, now go sod off and do something useful - Martin Freeman Twitter chat 3/1/13
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mae govannen
Tol Eressea
Dec 16 2014, 7:39am
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I haven't seen the film yet, but have gobbled every spoiler I could, and my own overall conclusion was also that it seemed to be quite genuinely Bilbo centered, particularly in all the moments when it should be. 
'Is everything sad going to come untrue?'
(Sam, 'The Field of Cormallen', in 'The Return of the King'.)
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Old Toby
Grey Havens
Dec 16 2014, 8:51am
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I just saw it tonight for the first time
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and it was Marathon Monday! So I got to watch the first two films in the big screen again right before the BOTFA! What a joy!
But yes, I agree with you. Those who are afraid Bilbo would take a back seat in this film needn't fear. He is definitely the star of the show. And man, that last scene with him and Thorin....get out the tissues already! I loved this film the best of the three! Plan to see it again when it opens here officially on the 17th!!!
"Age is always advancing and I'm fairly sure it's up to no good." Harry Dresden (Jim Butcher)
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dormouse
Half-elven
Dec 16 2014, 9:21am
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Everything revolved around him and his relationship with Thorin, as it should. And there were so many outstanding moments. I loved that scene after the battle when he and Gandalf just sit together in silence. It says so much.
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Dame Ioreth
Tol Eressea
Dec 16 2014, 1:32pm
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It reminded me of Mr. Rogers. For those who don't know who he was, he was a children's TV show host on US Public TV (Look up Mr. Roger's Neighborhood) who had a gentle way of talking to children and making them feel special and wanted. He had a way of using silence that made the TV executives squirm.
I've already heard some people complain bout that silence between Bilbo and Gandalf, but it was needed, very much needed at that point in time.
Where there's life there's hope, and need of vittles.
― J.R.R. Tolkien, The Lord of the Rings
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adt100
Rohan
Dec 16 2014, 1:33pm
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Yeah, I think Bilbo makes a very good account for himself.
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Certainly more so that in these chapters of the book! His scenes in Erebor with Thorin and in dealing with Thranduil, Bard and Gandalf were particular strong imho.
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adt100
Rohan
Dec 16 2014, 1:36pm
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I liked the silence, but........
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NOT the bit with Gandalf trying to light his pipe for so long! Reminded me of the ROTK EE scene with Gandalf's coughing fit in Minas Tirith... the deep breath before the plunge.
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Bombadil
Half-elven
Dec 16 2014, 2:08pm
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Powerful Silence = Powerful Thoughts
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No sound, No music
A Meditation
..on what has just proceeded..
Battle Weary, Emotionally DRAINED...
POST WAR SHOCK?
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Allowed the vast audience to contemplate,
the LARGER issues of their own personal struggles.
Sorta of, like the Enviable? ... heart-breaking moment
YOU KNOW is coming..
whenever someone close to you
dies in YOUR Life.
THIS Huge Movie does concentrate on
"The COST of WAR,
Disappointment; the TOTAL Failure of the Line of
Durin.."
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That is ONE of the Finest thing PJ does SSOoo. well.
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tsmith675
Gondor
Dec 16 2014, 2:11pm
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It focused on him more than I was expecting. I was pleasantly surprised.
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mirkwoodwanderer
Lorien
Dec 16 2014, 2:15pm
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The fact that he could not light his pipe.. was very very emotional.
Normally he can make a boat with his smoke, now he could not even get the pipe on.
One of the moments in the film without words, but soo much strength.
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Bombadil
Half-elven
Dec 16 2014, 2:22pm
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bom kinda thought Bilbo would ask him?
"Got any More Old Toby...I need a Smoke too?"
Maybe in the EE???
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Elessar
Valinor
Dec 16 2014, 2:33pm
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Bilbo is front and center in this one, IMO.
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adt100
Rohan
Dec 16 2014, 2:36pm
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I agree, BUT I think it went on a bit long....
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In point of fact, in all 3 viewings I've been to it caused a chuckle of laughter from a small number of people. The tone for me wasn't quite right.... Gandalf needed to stop scraping away at his pipe a little sooner imho.
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Old Toby
Grey Havens
Dec 16 2014, 3:10pm
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I agree with you on this moment
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It was a good scene, but in the wrong place. It was right after all those very emotional, exhausting deaths, and although perhaps the intent was to lighten the mood, still, I felt it wasn't the time to do that with comedy. And yeah, in the theater I was in, filled with fans, there was laughter then too.
"Age is always advancing and I'm fairly sure it's up to no good." Harry Dresden (Jim Butcher)
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Laughing NOW?
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