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Question about Nazgul, Post-Ring

DavidDragonSlayer
The Shire


Dec 12 2014, 7:30am

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Does anyone know what happened to the Nazgul once the One Ring was destroyed? What about the Orcs and Uruk-hai? Just wondering while I wait for the last part of the Hobbit.

"I've Lost My Wizard And My Way"-Bilbo Baggins, explaining his predicament to Golum, when they first meet.

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Gianna
Rohan


Dec 12 2014, 11:30pm

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In ROTK, in the "Mount Doom" chapter, Tolkien says: "And into the heart of the storm, with a cry that pierced all other sounds, tearing the clouds asunder, the Nazgul came, shooting like flaming bolts, as caught in the fiery ruin of hill and sky they crackled, withered, and went out." (Unwin-Hyman, 1955, pg. 224)

I assume that would answer for the Nazgul, but I don't know about the Orcs. I would think that the Uruk-hai who weren't killed at Helm's Deep or destroyed by the Huorns after the battle, were drowned or killed by the Ents at Isengard.

~There's some good left in this world. And it's worth fighting for.~


DavidDragonSlayer
The Shire


Dec 12 2014, 11:59pm

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Thank you for describing that. I read the books before seeing hte movies, and have not read them since, I'm afraid. I do have them though.

"I've Lost My Wizard And My Way"-Bilbo Baggins, explaining his predicament to Golum, when they first meet.


Rembrethil
Tol Eressea


Dec 13 2014, 4:00am

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)Which is always dangerous in my case.Tongue) I think there is a passage in RotK that after the Ring was destroyed, the orcs, 'lost the force of will that had driven them on wavered and quailed'. Horrible paraphrasing, but something like that....

Call me Rem, and remember, not all who ramble are lost...Uh...where was I?


BlackFox
Half-elven


Dec 13 2014, 10:23am

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The Captains bowed their heads; and when they looked up again, behold! their enemies were flying and the power of Mordor was scattering like dust in the wind. As when death smites the swollen brooding thing that inhabits their crawling hill and holds them all in sway, ants will wander witless and purposeless and then feebly die, so the creatures of Sauron, orc or troll or beast spell-enslaved, ran hither and thither mindless; and some slew themselves, or cast themselves in pits, or fled wailing back to hide in holes and dark lightless places far from hope.
- The Field of Cormallen, ROTK




Na Vedui
Rohan


Dec 13 2014, 10:35pm

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still extant ("alive" is hardly the word) after the battle of the Pelennor Fields. There, Eowyn and Merry destroyed the Witch-King, for practical purposes, but there is a slight ambiguity about his fate. Certainly, nothing is left of his physical embodiment - his mantle and hauberk fall empty and shapeless to the ground - then "a cry went up into the shuddering air, and faded to a thin wailing, passing with the wind, a voice bodiless and thin that died, and was swallowed up, and was never heard again in that age of the world."
So there's a bit of wiggle-room there for further trouble from that quarter in the future, I think!


Bracegirdle
Valinor


Dec 13 2014, 11:10pm

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were dissipated to that Land of Wherever along with their Master.

Thanks BlackFox for bringing that up. Don't you just love the first few pages of The Field of Cormallen. What a way with words! A visualization extraordinaire!


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’The realm of Sauron is ended!’ said Gandalf. ‘The ring-bearer has fulfilled his Quest.’ And as the Captains gazed south to the Land of Mordor, it seemed to them that, black against the pall of cloud, there rose a huge shape of shadow, impenetrable, lightning-crowned, filling all the sky. Enormous it reared above the world, and stretched out towards them a vast threatening hand, terrible but impotent: for even as it leaned over them, a great wind took it, and it was all blown away, and passed; and then a hush fell.


“Faithless is he that says farewell when the road darkens.”
But, sneaking off in daylight takes much more cunning.



Rembrethil
Tol Eressea


Dec 14 2014, 3:19am

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Thanks BlackFox!

I think the 'wavering' and 'quailing' came from my reading of the Silmarillion. Tongue The epic parts of LotR always remind me of the Sil.

Call me Rem, and remember, not all who ramble are lost...Uh...where was I?

 
 

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