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Bracegirdle
Valinor


Dec 1 2014, 6:41pm

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Words? Words! - What is THE WORD? :) Can't Post

Hidden in plain sight the following nonsensical, ill written tale contains 117 Tolkien persons, places, or things.
Try a line or two, or a few. Please give line numbers.

There are a very few repeats of which each will count toward the total of 117. (Eä is banished.)

Examples: Thor in haste seized his hammer. (Thorin)
Word(s) may cross-through any punctuation: Thor, in haste seized his hammer.
Words may cross from end-line to start-line: Thor,
in
haste seized his hammer.
Words may be found within words: Thorin, in haste seized his hammer. (Ori)

Those so inclined may want to print out and peruse at leisure. Have Fun on your Quest! Smile Smile

1. Once upon a time, long, oh so long ago, a man diligently and wisely led a safe,
2. a normal and rather boring life. Yes, the man we are portraying was a fairly wise
3. man, yet he did exist a ridiculously dull life as his wiseness was limited. One day,
4. a blustering day; the sky was dim, barren, yet devoid of clouds, when a strong
5. disturbing breeze began gleefully to boldly play with his mind. Then grim, boldly,
6. (he did feel venturous) he began going on a quest in grand style, doffing lastly
7. his matching hat and white socks; and with some humor gulped a pint of ale. While
8. a flock of great eagles flew over like a jewel winging south, he did feel more daring
9. and alert. He (watching closely) took heed and with humor went and entered a tunnel;
10. a normal, apparently, yet a narrow and rambling maze. He knew not his little odds
11. and would slowly rumble along with a proud sashay sending an echo before him.
12. He once lost his way, meeting a slick slime by waters cold and swift. But here was
13. a magic, archaic yet enticing. Yet he did search eternally (forever even it seemed)
14. for the way out, until he did feel weak. Then he did march out with vigor,
15. limping slightly, with his mascot Mangy, an animal bethorned and somewhat lame –
16. done by a wolf. His mascot, tongue hanging, he daintily stroked. The dog was a thing old
17. yet hale. He found himself in a region far north, anchored in a scary field, a marsh,
18. a foul most rank fen, gelled to a thick muck, a fen marching to the horizon; marching
19. far - a mire endless. Then he did stride rushing rapidly when gripped in his hands
20. was cast a miracle! He sat! He felt he should hide or scream but just sat bobbing
21. to and fro. Doom it seemed! He glanced to his hands in disbelief, and there bore
22. a various yet remarkable sight - two of ukuleles; sarapes; potholders; one sole helmet
23. (of metal and canvas); a rod; a nonsensical leaflet; and a brand new cymbal in a
24. leather case. Sitting befuddled he did snag a ukulele and began to play music,
25. rambling yet a known or infamous tune nobody cared for. Now homeward bound
26. he halted first at the Forsaken Inn and got swacked. Snug at home he was now
27. thankful for his survival and illusive escape from the cave. Some say this man may
28. be legend – ah, maybe or not. From such there stories may come. From there chance
29. fables appear. Here lastly lies – THE END!

I’ll give my answers in a few days. Cool

“Faithless is he that says farewell when the road darkens.”
But, sneaking off in daylight takes much more cunning.



squire
Half-elven


Dec 1 2014, 8:30pm

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Only found 65 - a great game! [In reply to] Can't Post

I know the rest are in there, but my time has run out. Thanks for this!

1. amandil, feanor
2.
3. istari, fea
4. ring, enye
5. tobold, grimbold
6. elven, ingon, finglas
7. whitesocks, morgul, leaflock
8. great eagles, elwin
9. dale, took, morwen, elanor
10. anor [reuse], rowan
11. haysend
12. celos, waymeet, sam
13. carc, archet, evereven
14. elwe, gorlim
15. cotman, lamedon
16. cotton, edain, ingold
17. orthanc, scary, eldamar
18. ulmo, fengel, oath, fenmarch
19. faramir, rider, hengrip
20. castamir, deor, bob
21. frodo, indis, erebor
22. elessar
23. talan, arod, flet, brand, ale
24. snaga, cram
25. nori, forn
26.
27. valandil
28. beorn, erestor



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Bracegirdle
Valinor


Dec 1 2014, 10:27pm

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Your welcome Squire [In reply to] Can't Post

It is time consuming, it is! Mad

I figured there would be some that I missed.
But you found four that I'm not even familiar with?

4. Enye
6. Ingon
8. Elwin
19. Hengrip

“Faithless is he that says farewell when the road darkens.”
But, sneaking off in daylight takes much more cunning.



squire
Half-elven


Dec 1 2014, 11:23pm

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I might have made those up! [In reply to] Can't Post

I thought Enye was one of those Silmarillion Elves. Maybe not.
Ingon I believe was a Man of Gondor, but if you say no I believe you.
Elwin was one of the names Tolkien gave his time-traveling hero in The Lost Road and/or The Notion Club Papers - I think.
Hengrip - sounds kind of Rohan-y, don't it? Or don't it?

You da judge! Let us know when the all-clear sounds. Thanks again.



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Na Vedui
Rohan


Dec 2 2014, 12:44am

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Didn't find them all.. [In reply to] Can't Post

I think there are about 90 here, including the dodgy ones.
1. amandil ent andwise
2. anor andrath bor manwe
3.istari fea isen ted.
4. ring dimbar
5. dis bree tobold grimbold
6.ent oin finglas
7. whitesocks; morgul
7/8.leaflock
8. elwing ring
9. dale took morwen ent ered
9/10.elanor
10. ent arrow andram leod - & bling!
11.haysend
12.celos waymeet bywater
12/13. sam
13. carc ent archet
14. elwe marcho
14/15.gorlim
15. cotMan malbeth
15/16. lamedon
16. wolf (? - properly Wulf). Cotton edain ingold
17. elf region orthanc scary eldamar
18. ulmo fengel fenmarch ori
19. faramir strider
20. Castamir deor bob
21. froDo indis erebor
22. Avari mark elessar otho
23. talan arod flet brand balin
24. snaga
24/25.cram
25. nori nob forN
26. ted
27. valandil
28. Beleg beor erestor erech
29. erelas


a.s.
Valinor


Dec 2 2014, 2:18am

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hoo boy [In reply to] Can't Post

I worked on it until my eyes crossed. Pitiful number of responses, but fun puzzle!

1. [ent] [fe --
2.-- a nor] [ring] [man we]
3. [ist a ri]
5. [to bold] [grim, bold]
6. [el ven]
7. [mor gul]
8. [great eagles]
9.[d ale] [took] [mor wen] [ered]
10. [a nor] [row an].
11.[hay send]
13. [ch et]
14.[el we]
15.[cot Man] [horn] [lame –
16.-- don]. [cot, ton] [e dain] [thing ol]
17.[elf] [ar nor] [eld, a mar]
18. [ul mo] [fen, gel] [fen march]
19. [far - a mir] [stride r]
21. [fro. Do]
22. [eles; sar] [helm]
23. [tal an] [a rod] [flet] [bal in]
24. [snag a]
25. [for. N]
27. [val and il]
28. [be leg] [be or n] [ere stor]
29. [ere las]

"an seileachan"


Through any dark time, I always remember Frodo's claim on the side of Mt. Doom that he "can manage it" because he must.
Sometimes, I have to manage it, too, as do we all. We manage because we must.




(This post was edited by a.s. on Dec 2 2014, 2:32am)


Bracegirdle
Valinor


Dec 2 2014, 3:01am

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Ok, I did a google on these.. [In reply to] Can't Post

4. Enye - Dame Enye - A midwife under a fan/fic site

6. Ingon - ARWEN TO ARAGORN: Ingon i athrad dammen beriathar aen. (from the movie, suppose we could count this.)
(There WAS an "Ingold", man of Gondor.

8. Elwin Ransom may be based on C. S. Lewis' friend J. R. R. Tolkien - from Wikipedia (? not really, huh?)

19. Hengrip A great name, can’t find anything on it though. Yes, a great Rohan-y name.

Analysis - IMHO we include "Ingon" (from the movie).
Best I can come up with..Crazy

“Faithless is he that says farewell when the road darkens.”
But, sneaking off in daylight takes much more cunning.



squire
Half-elven


Dec 2 2014, 3:49am

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I'll stand by Elwin, but the rest are phony unfortunately [In reply to] Can't Post

Elwin at least I got right: in Tolkien's notes for The Lost Road (pp. 7; 34-35) that's his basic term for the name of the son (he's actually called Auboin in the narrative) in the father-son pair of modern-day Englishmen who time travel back to Numenor: Elwin is the modernized name for Anglo-saxon Aelfwine "Elf-friend"; also the Numenorean hero Elendil has a variation of the name. In the post-war reboot, The Notion Club Papers, the hero Lowdham's first name is the very similar Alwin. You caught the C. S. Lewis connection: that Lewis called his philologist hero Elwin Ransom is no coincidence, it's a tribute to Tolkien who was sharing his Numenorean story ideas and nomenclature at the time.

The "Ingon" in the film script is not a proper name, it's neo-Elvish, translated as "I guess". I guess I was thinking of Ingold.

Enye. I think I was channeling Elwe, one of Thingol's names.

Hengrip. Again, I think I had Hengist in mind, the Anglo-saxon pioneer who led the invasion and settlement of England, whom Tolkien recreates in one of his early tales linking Elvish history to English legends.



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Rembrethil
Tol Eressea


Dec 2 2014, 3:49am

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Hmmm... I'll have a go [In reply to] Can't Post

1. Aman, Amandil, Ent, Andwise, Fea, Feanor
2. Ormal, Ori (You almost got Ringil!), Manwe
3. Istar (singular of Istari), Isen
4. ring?, Dimabar, (the) Void?,
5. Tobold, Grim, Grimbold,
6. Elven?, Oin,
7. Morgul,
8. Eagles,
9. Dale, The Watch, Took, Morwen,
10. Anor, (Ormal), Anar, Arrow?, Rowan?, Wand?, Andram, Leod,
11. Ash?,
12. Waymeet, Bywater,
13.
14. Elwe, Gorlim
15. Anim? (Sindarin), Malbeth,
16. Cotton, Dain, Ingold
17. (Almost Eregion), Arnor, Orthanc, Eldamar,
18. (Ori),
19. Faramir, Pedin (Sindarin),
20. Castamir, Bob,
21. Frodo, Doom?, Lanc? (Sindarin), Indis, Ereb? (Sindarin), Erebor,
22. Avar? (Singular of Arvari), Avari, Otho, Elm?
23. Talan, Arod, Flet, Brand, Balin,
24. Snaga,
25. Nob, Forn,
26. The Forsaken Inn,
27. Valandil,
28. Beleg, Beor, Beorn, Erestor, Erech,

1. Once upon a time, long, oh so long ago, a man diligently and wisely led a safe,
2. a normal and rather boring life. Yes, the man we are portraying was a fairly wise
3. man, yet he did exist a ridiculously dull life as his wiseness was limited. One day,
4. a blustering day; the sky was dim, barren, yet devoid of clouds, when a strong
5. disturbing breeze began gleefully to boldly play with his mind. Then grim, boldly,
6. (he did feel venturous) he began going on a quest in grand style, doffing lastly
7. his matching hat and white socks; and with some humor gulped a pint of ale. While
8. a flock of great eagles flew over like a jewel winging south, he did feel more daring
9. and alert. He (watching closely) took heed and with humor went and entered a tunnel;
10. a normal, apparently, yet a narrow and rambling maze. He knew not his little odds
11. and would slowly rumble along with a proud sashay sending an echo before him.
12. He once lost his way, meeting a slick slime by waters cold and swift. But here was
13. a magic, archaic yet enticing. Yet he did search eternally (forever even it seemed)
14. for the way out, until he did feel weak. Then he did march out with vigor,
15. limping slightly, with his mascot Mangy, an animal bethorned and somewhat lame –
16. done by a wolf. His mascot, tongue hanging, he daintily stroked. The dog was a thing old
17. yet hale. He found himself in a region far north, anchored in a scary field, a marsh,
18. a foul most rank fen, gelled to a thick muck, a fen marching to the horizon; marching
19. far - a mire endless. Then he did stride rushing rapidly when gripped in his hands
20. was cast a miracle! He sat! He felt he should hide or scream but just sat bobbing
21. to and fro. Doom it seemed! He glanced to his hands in disbelief, and there bore
22. a various yet remarkable sight - two of ukuleles; sarapes; potholders; one sole helmet
23. (of metal and canvas); a rod; a nonsensical leaflet; and a brand new cymbal in a
24. leather case. Sitting befuddled he did snag a ukulele and began to play music,
25. rambling yet a known or infamous tune nobody cared for. Now homeward bound
26. he halted first at the Forsaken Inn and got swacked. Snug at home he was now
27. thankful for his survival and illusive escape from the cave. Some say this man may
28. be legend – ah, maybe or not. From such there stories may come. From there chance
29. fables appear. Here lastly lies – THE END!

How'd I do?



Call me Rem, and remember, not all who ramble are lost...Uh...where was I?


Bracegirdle
Valinor


Dec 2 2014, 4:10am

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Wow! SUPER Na Vedui [In reply to] Can't Post

A quick going over, I come up with ...

2. Bor I didn’t know of is GOOD. Smile
8. Ring not there
9. Ered – I missed Frown
10. Bling - ?

We're quickly shooting passed my 117 (which I could never get twice in a row anywayUnsureUnsure.

“Faithless is he that says farewell when the road darkens.”
But, sneaking off in daylight takes much more cunning.



Bracegirdle
Valinor


Dec 2 2014, 4:12am

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Is good, Elwin is good! Tks squire // [In reply to] Can't Post

 

“Faithless is he that says farewell when the road darkens.”
But, sneaking off in daylight takes much more cunning.



Bracegirdle
Valinor


Dec 2 2014, 4:19am

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Oh, no - not pitiful at all a.s. [In reply to] Can't Post

It is a real eye-crosser for sure. I have missed several myself and I made it up fer crying out loud.

Only question is-
13. Chet ? (There is a Chetwood, (not necessarily in this tale)).

“Faithless is he that says farewell when the road darkens.”
But, sneaking off in daylight takes much more cunning.



a.s.
Valinor


Dec 2 2014, 4:28am

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Only question is-
13. Chet ?



All that bracketing and copying and pasting!

Supposed to be "archet". My bad.

Blush

a.s.

"an seileachan"


Through any dark time, I always remember Frodo's claim on the side of Mt. Doom that he "can manage it" because he must.
Sometimes, I have to manage it, too, as do we all. We manage because we must.




Bracegirdle
Valinor


Dec 2 2014, 4:40am

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Hmm.. You did dang good Rem. Thanks for playing [In reply to] Can't Post

Comments on a few... Opened my eyes.. but he giveth and he taketh away. Smile

3. Istar is GOOD! I missed it!
4. Yes, I counted Ring and Void.
5. “Grim”, we had a go-round on this one before.
10. , Arrow?, , Wand?,
I didn’t count Arrow or Wand, not Tolkienish enough for me - but, hey, I’m easy.
11. Ash – ditto
15. Anim? (Sindarin), I’ll take your word on that one. Smile
17. (Almost Eregion), (take the ‘E’ off Eregion and go-man-go…
19. Pedin (Sindarin), another Smile
21. Doom? (naw), Lanc? (Sindarin), ereb? (Sindarin), Smile
22. Avar? Smile

“Faithless is he that says farewell when the road darkens.”
But, sneaking off in daylight takes much more cunning.



Bracegirdle
Valinor


Dec 2 2014, 4:45am

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No prob. You good a.s. - Archet, a nice place to visit.. // [In reply to] Can't Post

 

“Faithless is he that says farewell when the road darkens.”
But, sneaking off in daylight takes much more cunning.



Bracegirdle
Valinor


Dec 2 2014, 4:48am

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And thanks for all your extra work Bolderizing.. // [In reply to] Can't Post

 

“Faithless is he that says farewell when the road darkens.”
But, sneaking off in daylight takes much more cunning.



dormouse
Half-elven


Dec 2 2014, 9:11am

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Can't play now, need to work.... [In reply to] Can't Post

but couldn't help noticing....

28. Beleg, Beor, Erestor, Ori, Erech

It's addictive - hope for time to do more!


Na Vedui
Rohan


Dec 2 2014, 12:14pm

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Bling [In reply to] Can't Post

Just a joke - Tolkien's full of bling - all those Rings, Silmarils, Arkenstones, Elfstones ...to say nothing of Smaug's hoard!


BlackFox
Half-elven


Dec 2 2014, 2:43pm

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Here goes [In reply to] Can't Post

1. Longo, Aman, Amandil
1.-2. Feanor
2. Borin, Ori, Eye, Manwe
2.-3. Wiseman
3. Istari
4. Dimbar, Void
5. Dis, Bree, Angle, Tobold, Grimbold
6. Elven, Oin, Finglas
7. Morgul
8. Great Eagle, Elmo
9. Dale, Took
10. Anor, Anar, Rowan
11. Haysend, Hob
12. Celos, Bywater, Water
12.-13. Sam
13. Archet, Ever-eve, Evereven
14. Vigo
15. Cotman, Malbeth, Horn
16. Wolf, Cotton, Otto, Edain, Thingol
17. Region, Orthanc, Dina, Scary, Eldamar
18. Ulmo, Fengel, Fenmarch
19. Faramir, Strider, Grip
20. Castamir, Deor, Bob
21. Frodo, Dis, Erebor
22. Avari, Mark, Elessar, Hold, Helm
23. talan, Arod, Leaf, flet, Brand, Balin
24. Snaga
25. Nori, Ori, Nob, Forn
26. The Forsaken Inn
27. Valandil
28. Beleg, Beorn, Ori, Erech
29. Erelas





Bracegirdle
Valinor


Dec 2 2014, 2:58pm

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Yeah, Bling IS a great word. Wish we could use it!! // [In reply to] Can't Post

 

“Faithless is he that says farewell when the road darkens.”
But, sneaking off in daylight takes much more cunning.



Bracegirdle
Valinor


Dec 2 2014, 3:21pm

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Morning (here) BlackFox [In reply to] Can't Post

Comments

2. Eye, I wouldn’t count as a Tolkien word.
12. Water – ditto
13. Ever-eve ?
14. Vigo – Hmm, have to give you that one. Frown
15. Horn – Well now, if it was Helm’s Horn, or Hornburg, or Horn-call of Buckland, but just plain horn? I’ll have to check with The Authorities! Smile
16. Otto – I checked for this before and found nothing??? Does sound like it should be in a family tree somewhere though.
17. Dina – Who dat?
22. Hold – sneaky try. Hold me tight baby. Smile

All-in-all DARN GOOD WORK BF. How are the eyes holding out?

“Faithless is he that says farewell when the road darkens.”
But, sneaking off in daylight takes much more cunning.



Bracegirdle
Valinor


Dec 2 2014, 3:35pm

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Never hurts to... [In reply to] Can't Post

take a day off for things of much more importance! Wink

**misses the mouse**

“Faithless is he that says farewell when the road darkens.”
But, sneaking off in daylight takes much more cunning.



BlackFox
Half-elven


Dec 2 2014, 4:09pm

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I feel like Gollum on a sunny day [In reply to] Can't Post

Explanations:

Eye - The Eye (of Sauron)
Water - The Water, a river in the Shire
Ever-eve - another name for Evereven (see I sang of leaves, of leaves of gold, and leaves of gold there grew)
Horn - a man of Rohan who fell in the Battle of the Pelennor Fields (he is mentioned in the Song of the Mounds of Mundburg)
Otto - Otto Boffin (Otto the Fat)
Dina - Dina Bolger (née Diggle)
Hold - another name for Dunharrow

Fun game! Smile



Bracegirdle
Valinor


Dec 2 2014, 5:12pm

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My humble thoughts [In reply to] Can't Post

Eye - The Eye (of Sauron)
Also - The Lidless Eye, The Evil Eye, The Great Eye, The Red Eye, The Eye of Barad-dur....
But just plain ‘Eye’ IMHO is not a Tolkien word.

Water - The Water, a river in the Shire.
I don’t believe it was called just plain ‘Water’, always ‘The Water’..
Just ‘water’ is too common for a legit Tolkien word, just as ‘tree’ would be too common, eh?

Ever-eve - Got me! This is Good. Smile

Otto - Otto Boffin (Otto the Fat)
I think you got me again.. Smile
I don’t have a revised ed. with Boffins of the Yale. Evil

Dina - Dina Bolger (née Diggle)
ditto, another for BF Smile

Hold - another name for Dunharrow
Usually ‘The Hold’, but I’ll give to you this one, you.. you.. Smile

“Faithless is he that says farewell when the road darkens.”
But, sneaking off in daylight takes much more cunning.



(This post was edited by Bracegirdle on Dec 2 2014, 5:14pm)


BlackFox
Half-elven


Dec 2 2014, 5:48pm

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So be it [In reply to] Can't Post

Now I'm tempted to go back to search for more. Smile

Just curious - how long did it take you to put it all together?


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