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What's the scoop with this Nazgul?

Bishop
Gondor


Nov 26 2014, 2:42am

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What's the scoop with this Nazgul? Can't Post




There&ThereAgain
Rohan


Nov 26 2014, 2:48am

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His name is Ted [In reply to] Can't Post

And he got stuck with the short straw in the helmet department.

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Bishop
Gondor


Nov 26 2014, 2:53am

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Let's continue the story [In reply to] Can't Post

Looking about at his Nazgul friends, Ted tried desperately to conceal his embarrassment. But the porcupine purse wasn't helping matters much.


drewster81
The Shire

Nov 26 2014, 2:54am

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He's there to entertain the other 8 when they're feeling down. [In reply to] Can't Post

 


There&ThereAgain
Rohan


Nov 26 2014, 3:07am

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Although he doesn't have a sweet scottish singing voice like a hobbit we know... [In reply to] Can't Post

Ted does know how to dance.

"The world is indeed full of peril, and in it there are many dark places; but still there is much that is fair; and though in all lands love is now mingled with grief, it grows perhaps the greater."-J.R.R. Tolkien

"Thanks for the money!" -George Lucas

(This post was edited by There&ThereAgain on Nov 26 2014, 3:08am)


Retro315
Rivendell

Nov 26 2014, 3:37am

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The Easterling [In reply to] Can't Post

Khamul, the Easterling.

The text doesn't get too into detail about just who the Nazgul all are. But the extra material does a bit, and we can also surmise based on Sauron and Celebrimbor's selection of dwarves and elven ringbearers what kind of men they'd be. We know that the Witch-king is in all likelihood a Black Numenorean, with some likely connection to Arnor, because, Angmar. We know a couple others are probably Numenorean lords from down south. We don't know the rest, but we know they should likely have been powerful, holding much in the way of land and soldiers and wealth. Possibly one from Harad, one from Khand, one from the East, maybe one from Rhovanion or the ancestors of the Horse-lords.

But one we do know the name of is Khamul the Easterling. He's specifically the Nazgul who questioned the Gaffer about Frodo's whereabouts, and moreover, canonically he's the only Nazgul in the books who might have been at Dol Guldur in this time period.

Anyway, the Easterling-style kit pretty much pegs this guy as Khamul, even if they never get into discussing it within the film narrative canon.

That's our keeper of Dol Guldur, second only to the Witch-king (and thus, Sauron's third in command). And I believe the only "named" Nazgul.


(This post was edited by Retro315 on Nov 26 2014, 3:38am)


Bishop
Gondor


Nov 26 2014, 3:45am

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His name is Ted. Laugh


Danielos
Rohan

Nov 26 2014, 4:16am

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Nazgul [In reply to] Can't Post

He really should quit the junk food and start some proper diet.


xMb
The Shire

Nov 26 2014, 4:23am

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Guys, c'mon. [In reply to] Can't Post

I'm sure he already gets teased enough by the other 8 for his weight, no need to make fun...


Bladerunner
Gondor


Nov 26 2014, 4:51am

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Is Ted the Easterling played by PJ the New Zealander? [In reply to] Can't Post

Btw - his outfit doesn't strike me as Easterling in fashion, esp. when compared to the Easterling attire in The Lord of the Rings trilogy.



(This post was edited by Bladerunner on Nov 26 2014, 4:52am)


Crunchable Birdses
Rohan


Nov 26 2014, 12:56pm

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He's Khamul The Easterling, and he likes pie, it would seem. [In reply to] Can't Post

Nice to know Bombur finally has his own nemesis.

* crunch *


Guert
Rivendell


Nov 26 2014, 1:30pm

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PJ Cameo ;) [In reply to] Can't Post

http://i.bullfax.com/...70566152c6960882.jpg

He does indeed looks like the costume PJ wore at the SDCC this year... haha !


adt100
Rohan


Nov 26 2014, 1:54pm

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You could be onto something there... [In reply to] Can't Post

 


joec_34
Rivendell


Nov 26 2014, 2:19pm

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Connection to RotK cameo? [In reply to] Can't Post

I've been reading wiki sites, so this is probably a bit wacky, but I thought I'd share my fun thought anyways.
If the Witch King is most likely a Black Numenorean, as Retro asserts,
And the Black Numenoreans are connected to the Corsairs of Umbar, (as lotr.wikia.com seems to say,)
And the Nazgul were great leaders of men when Sauron gave them rings,
And leaders have historically cemented alliances with marriages,
And if PJ does cameo as Khamul, the Easterling (aka Ted,)
And he already did a cameo as one of the Corsairs of Umbar in RotK,
Then, (drum roll please) perhaps, the PJ cameo Corsair is descended from Khamul (aka Ted) and The Witch King!


P.S. I don't think I'll ever see the nazgul again without thinking of Ted.

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Carne
Tol Eressea

Nov 26 2014, 2:37pm

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Motion capture cameo if so [In reply to] Can't Post

All nine are CG.


Carnivoran
The Shire

Nov 26 2014, 4:05pm

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His helm and body armor are certainly Easterling in appearance [In reply to] Can't Post

Take a look at the helmet of the easterlings and their shoulder armor. It is very similar.

http://lotr.wikia.com/wiki/Easterlings

His curvy long parts on the helm look like extensions of a the normal easterling helmet just in reverse.

His robes make him look oddly portly though.....


Snowghost77
Lorien


Nov 26 2014, 11:30pm

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I really like all the nazgul designs personally... [In reply to] Can't Post

I'm really liking the diversity...didn't sauron lure the men from all over middle earth? Makes sense to me for them to look different and some quite outlandish as well.. pretty sick design.
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Bishop
Gondor


Nov 26 2014, 11:48pm

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I love the diversity in design too [In reply to] Can't Post

I think it's pretty awesome. It's just that guy's hat I was curious about. And, you know, you look at these guys and the diversity doesn't seem so apparent. I hope they have some good behind the scenes on how they decided how the Nazgul would look in this form.

 
 

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