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BOT5A TRAILER 2 OUT!!!
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Rohan


Nov 6 2014, 9:49pm

Post #301 of 348 (2587 views)
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     I'm a little late [In reply to]  

But amazing trailer! Some sketchy CG, but whatever. It's a freaking trailer, not the finished movie. Same thing happens with every other trailer in existence. I am however kinda disappointed with the direction this thread has taken. Unimpressed

How many Tolkien fans does it take to change a light bulb?

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CathrineB
Rohan


Nov 6 2014, 9:56pm

Post #302 of 348 (2593 views)
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     My thoughts (book spoilers) [In reply to]  

Still not fan of the elk. Goddamnit would it kill him to ride a horse like Bard does?

And do we see Kili's death there? Not his actual death, but you know. Tauriel is holding something small and I'd figured it could be Kili considering how sad she looks. Oh goddamnit man. I'm not one of the haters of the two, but I don't want him to die in her arms!!

Way way waaaaaaaaay to little Fili - if any. Where is he? ^_-

The foreheads touching between Thorin and Kili - wow so touching! Evil

Kili shouting. Quite a character moment! Dwalin! Bilbo omg! So much gorgeous characters I love them all!

Bilbo throwing down the rope to bring the stone to Bard and Thrandy?!!!

People still whine about the CGI? Good lord.

Bard. Thranduil. Ugh. Lee Pace is amazing. Luke Evans too. You can say a lot about these movies, but the casting is perfect.


SafeUnderHill
Rohan

Nov 6 2014, 10:04pm

Post #303 of 348 (2510 views)
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     People who disagree think the other is wrong [In reply to]  


In Reply To
When I say something negative about the film or trailer, I will merely post my opinion. I will not actively seek out those who praise it and attempt to engage in some never ending debate.

Yet those who are positive about the film feel the need to get defensive and accuse those with a different opinion of being trolls or wrong.


Responding to posts is the beautfy of a forum!

But you make a fair point.


SafeUnderHill
Rohan

Nov 6 2014, 10:07pm

Post #304 of 348 (2486 views)
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     Lets talk about your favourite shots! [In reply to]  

Enough of this stuff about the what you think is bad CGI. Tell me about your favourite shots!

Mine:

- The location shot next to the lake
- Thranduil and Gandalf in the tent
- Tauriel and Kili (the shot looks lovely and real, regardless of your thoughts on their characters)
- All of the Laketown visuals looks stunning
- Those shots of burning Laketown/Dale from Erebor also look wonderful
- The CGI in Erebor is looking better than ever


ElendilTheShort
Gondor


Nov 6 2014, 10:07pm

Post #305 of 348 (2509 views)
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     only breifly viewed it once with no sound [In reply to]  

but for me best shot=Elrond drawing sword like only an ancient and skilled elf could


Iris70
The Shire


Nov 6 2014, 10:09pm

Post #306 of 348 (2483 views)
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     elves and dwarves [In reply to]  

Don't you think there are too many elves and too few dwarves in this trailer? And Thorin being attacked by everybody?
And then... so much for the eternal "wind machine " in Middle Earth... this is going to be a real Smaug-nado!


Bombadil
Half-elven


Nov 6 2014, 10:09pm

Post #307 of 348 (2469 views)
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     DAMN the Critics..? FULL Speeed Ahead PJ!// [In reply to]  

 

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Ar-Pharazôn
The Shire

Nov 6 2014, 10:12pm

Post #308 of 348 (2517 views)
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     Concerning Thranduil [In reply to]  

Why the hell is he wearing in the trailer the same zombie-contact-lenses like Legolas? He didn´t wear it in DOS!


Elessar
Valinor


Nov 6 2014, 10:13pm

Post #309 of 348 (2454 views)
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     I caught that [In reply to]  

The second or third time I finally caught that. Pretty interesting moment.



SafeUnderHill
Rohan

Nov 6 2014, 10:22pm

Post #310 of 348 (2457 views)
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     The shot [In reply to]  

Of Bilbo climbing over a statue with Dale in the background also looks stunning. I think the visuals really shine at night time, it's harder to pull of CGI in bright daylight I'm guessing.


Wordofmask
Lorien

Nov 6 2014, 10:46pm

Post #311 of 348 (2389 views)
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     So [In reply to]  

Who is Galadriel lose to I wonder?

Sauron or The nine?

I hope it would be Sauron. The idea of lady of the light lose to the ring wraiths is unacceptable for me.


ElendilTheShort
Gondor


Nov 6 2014, 11:44pm

Post #312 of 348 (2303 views)
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     umm soooooooooo [In reply to]  

Thranduil cuts Tauriels throat or something?!?! What the flip?!?! If you slow it down it certainly looks like he has his sword in hand when he strikes her.
I don't like the way he is talking to Gandalf either.


macfalk
Valinor


Nov 6 2014, 11:45pm

Post #313 of 348 (2298 views)
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     Prosthetic orcs [In reply to]  

The goblins in Goblin-town were prosthetic too, but PJ cut them all out and went for the CGI-only route because he didn't like the feel of them. Could be the same case here.

The greatest adventure is what lies ahead.


macfalk
Valinor


Nov 6 2014, 11:46pm

Post #314 of 348 (2358 views)
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     I love that PJ is acknowledging that Thranduil isn't a good guy! [In reply to]  

Because, well, he isn't. In the book he is a greedy usurper. In the movie he's the same, albeit a charming and interesting one.

The greatest adventure is what lies ahead.


SafeUnderHill
Rohan

Nov 7 2014, 12:11am

Post #315 of 348 (2263 views)
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     Except [In reply to]  


In Reply To
The goblins in Goblin-town were prosthetic too, but PJ cut them all out and went for the CGI-only route because he didn't like the feel of them. Could be the same case here.


These prosthetic orcs in Dale were shot during 2013 pickups, even though he said he moved more towards digital ones later in the shoot. You can see them in both BOTFA trailers (very briefly) and they haven't been replaced.


Kim
Valinor


Nov 7 2014, 12:31am

Post #316 of 348 (2277 views)
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     Wow [In reply to]  

Once again, watched a trailer while holding my breath the whole time. Epic, but sad, especially for us Thorin fans. Unsure



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Wordofmask
Lorien

Nov 7 2014, 12:31am

Post #317 of 348 (2280 views)
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     Totally Agreed!! [In reply to]  

And Thorin's facial expression and his line not indicate that He will be a pure villain. He has some reason behind his action "Everything I did I did for them"


(This post was edited by Wordofmask on Nov 7 2014, 12:34am)


Kim
Valinor


Nov 7 2014, 12:42am

Post #318 of 348 (2214 views)
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     Don't forget your blankie [In reply to]  

and some sort of stuffed animal. We're going to need something to hug throughout the whole movie. Unsure



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Dame Ioreth
Tol Eressea


Nov 7 2014, 1:01am

Post #319 of 348 (2199 views)
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     I forgot about that! [In reply to]  

I was going to build a blanket fort and stock it with supplies.... I'd better start gathering everything.



Where there's life there's hope, and need of vittles.
― J.R.R. Tolkien, The Lord of the Rings






Cirashala
Tol Eressea


Nov 7 2014, 1:06am

Post #320 of 348 (2203 views)
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     he's knocking her bow and arrow out of her hands [In reply to]  

which she has drawn on him for some reason.....I cannot tell you how many times I had to watch it and pause to finally see it all! Not that I needed an excuse for re-watching this magnificent trailer Angelic

I don't know if he "snuck up" on her or what, but it's definitely bizarre....

I read the book and all (many times, and yes I know she's not in there) but one nice thing (and frustrating) about the filmmakers not following the book to a T is that it makes the last movie a bit of a mystery- really, ANYTHING could happen.

And for a "loves spoilers" type person like me, it drives me nuts! Evil



Cirashala
Tol Eressea


Nov 7 2014, 1:07am

Post #321 of 348 (2220 views)
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     BEAUTIFUL line! [In reply to]  

That line did me in....I already knew (due to reading the book) the casualties of the battle, but that line.....oh my gosh, I am going to need to buy the whole darn kleenex aisle stock for this movie! Frown

Then figure out how to get it in there....



iduna
Rivendell


Nov 7 2014, 1:22am

Post #322 of 348 (2183 views)
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     It was heart-breaking [In reply to]  

Dwalin has dedicated his whole life to being Thorin's defender and supporter.

To finally get to the point where he realizes that Thorin has gone wrong, and that he, Dwalin, has to tell his friend that he's wrong -- that will be devastating.


AshNazg
Gondor


Nov 7 2014, 1:25am

Post #323 of 348 (2168 views)
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     I didn't say the film was terrible... [In reply to]  

I said the CGI in this trailer looks bad (which, I'm sorry, but it does). I'm not being negative for the sake of it, if you read my post (or any of my previous posts) I explain I'm fine with the use of CGI in these films for the most part.

It's just that specific shots in this particular trailer look bad (at least to a few of us) and I am simply expressing my concern by saying that I hope it looks better in the final film, which I'm aware could very well be the case.

I'm sorry for not watching the trailer like a "normal person" but that's my choice. Crazy


Ataahua
Superuser / Moderator


Nov 7 2014, 1:34am

Post #324 of 348 (2156 views)
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     Now this [In reply to]  

would be the way to watch the movie during a moot with board members! *makes notes*

Celebrimbor: "Pretty rings..."
Dwarves: "Pretty rings..."
Men: "Pretty rings..."
Sauron: "Mine's better."

"Ah, how ironic, the addictive qualities of Sauron’s master weapon led to its own destruction. Which just goes to show, kids - if you want two small and noble souls to succeed on a mission of dire importance... send an evil-minded beggar with them too." - Gandalf's Diaries, final par, by Ufthak.


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Silverlode
Forum Admin / Moderator


Nov 7 2014, 1:50am

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     Trailer transcript [In reply to]  

There are a few people who consistently request these, so here you go:

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Bilbo: Thorin, you gave a promise.

Bard: You brought upon them only ruin and death.

Bilbo: You've won the Mountain, is that not enough?

Thorin: Now - we defend it.

Thranduil:
I came to reclaim something of mine.

Gandalf: This was the last move in a master plan, a plan long in the making.

Legolas:
These bats are bred for one purpose. For war.

Saruman: Leave Sauron to me.

Dwalin: Bilbo is right. You cannot see what you've become.

Thorin: Everything I did, I did for them.

Thranduil: You started this. You will forgive me if I finish it.

Bilbo: When faced with death, what can anyone do?

Kili: I will not hide while others fight our battles for us!

Gandalf: You have but one question to ask; how shall this day end?


Silverlode



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(This post was edited by Silverlode on Nov 7 2014, 11:31pm)

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