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Faramir74
Bree
Nov 5 2014, 1:50pm
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Baggins... Shire...
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When the Black Riders are looking for Frodo in FOTR, we see a Rider approach a man outside chopping wood. Do you think it was Farmer Maggot? Or perhaps the Old Gaffer? I'm not sure he was actually credited in the film cast.
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Faramir74
Bree
Nov 5 2014, 2:55pm
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For the link Magpie. So my second question is who are the two additional hobbbits with Frodo and Sam in the Green Dragon? It must be Ted Sandy man and the Gaffer!
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dijomaja
Lorien
Nov 6 2014, 10:59am
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Thanks for the page, M. It probably doesn't matter but I know you like to tie up loose ends. There's an "unidentified Hobbit child" at the bottom of the page. I'm inclined to trust intuitive jumps and the first thing I thought of when I saw the photo was the scene where the children chase Gandalf's wagon as he enters Hobbiton and sets off some fireworks.
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Bracegirdle
Valinor
Nov 11 2014, 12:13am
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I clicked on your "Old Noakes" link and "One Wiki" say the Ivy Bush was in Hobbiton. I always thought it was in Bywater?
Am I wrong? 
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Ithilisa
Rivendell
Nov 11 2014, 5:46am
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I always thought it was in Bywater? Am I wrong?
You're right, Bracegirdle. In FOTR: A Long- Expected Party, the text says "'[The Gaffer] held forth at The Ivy Bush, a small inn on the Bywater road;..."
"I name you Elf-friend; and may the stars shine upon the end of your road!" - Gildor
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Bracegirdle
Valinor
Nov 11 2014, 2:34pm
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On second look Bywater Road runs through Bywater and through (or very close to Hobbiton). I don't take this map as absolutely accurate but I can find no textual reference as to exactly where the Ivy Bush is located except that it's on the Bywater Road. According to this map it could be in either Bywater or Hobbiton or somewhere in between?
It does not do to leave a live dragon out of your calculations, if you live near him.
- JRRT
A dead dragon is not a big problem.
- BG
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BlackFox
Half-elven
Nov 11 2014, 8:20pm
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I'm tempted to rule out Bywater
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We already have The Green Dragon located there. Though this doesn't mean there couldn't have been more than one inn in Bywater, of course; it's just that I feel it's more likely The Ivy Bush is located either in Hobbiton or somewhere in between the two villages.
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Bracegirdle
Valinor
Nov 11 2014, 10:18pm
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Makes some sense BlackFox. . .
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Well now I think I’ve changed my mind (not completely). But it was likely close to or in Hobbiton. I wonder if Bilbo ran past The Ivy Bush on his way to meet the dwarves.
For fun BlackFox: How many taverns can you name (no peekee unless absolutely necessary). I know of seven. 
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- JRRT
A dead dragon is not a big problem.
- BG
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BlackFox
Half-elven
Nov 12 2014, 9:33am
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Of which I can name five: The Prancing Pony, The Green Dragon, The Ivy Bush, The Floating Log and The Golden Perch. I know there was another inn near the Brandywine Bridge, but I can't remember what it was called.
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Bracegirdle
Valinor
Nov 12 2014, 9:57am
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The Bridge Inn and The Forsaken Inn
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You are Sooo good! 
And another name for the Brandywine Bridge?
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- BG
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BlackFox
Half-elven
Nov 12 2014, 10:06am
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Umm... Umm... Umm... I'm afraid I don't know the answer to this one. 
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Bracegirdle
Valinor
Nov 12 2014, 10:29am
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Sorry BlackFox - didn't mean to bug you
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It's 3:25 AM here and I've got a case of the no nods. 
And I'm just a trivia nut and blurted that out....
The Bridge of Stonebows
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BlackFox
Half-elven
Nov 12 2014, 10:30am
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Come, ask me another.
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Bracegirdle
Valinor
Nov 12 2014, 10:38am
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A name for the entryway through the High Hay into the Old Forest.
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A dead dragon is not a big problem.
- BG
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BlackFox
Half-elven
Nov 12 2014, 10:48am
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Do you mean the Buckland Gate...
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... or that tunnel through which Frodo & Co. entered the Old Forest?
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Bracegirdle
Valinor
Nov 12 2014, 10:56am
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Yaay! Right. Also called the Hay Gate.
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You get three, I say Three smiley faces
And this guy's gonna try AGAIN to get some zzzzz-s
Tomorrow is another day.
Opps, took some z-s from Bomby
Cheers
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BlackFox
Half-elven
Nov 12 2014, 11:03am
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Night-night!
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Faramir74
Bree
Nov 17 2014, 9:31pm
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Ok Black Fox and Brace girdle - what did Sam claim his cousin Hal saw on the High Moors, up away in the North Farthing? Remember, no cheating!
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Faramir74
Bree
Nov 17 2014, 9:54pm
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Correct! If you are making for the Bucklebury Ferry and you take the road from Woodhall to Stock, what is that part of the Shire called?
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Faramir74
Bree
Nov 17 2014, 10:07pm
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Last one for tonight. Slightly outside of the Shire but.. what was the name of the West Gate keeper at Bree?
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