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Scenes you can *and* can't live without from The Lord of the Rings and The Hobbit movies.
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DanielLB
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Oct 18 2014, 10:52am

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Scenes you can *and* can't live without from The Lord of the Rings and The Hobbit movies. Can't Post

Which scenes from each of the movies can and can't you live without? You have to pick 10 scenes in total, no more. No listing all Thranduil or Aragorn scenes. You don't have to pick entire scenes - there might be a particular sequence you feel passionate about.

However you rank these scenes is up to you. They might be: your most/least favourite scenes, closest/furthest from Tolkien canon, best/worst CGI, best/worst acting; and so on.

Feel free to explain your reasoning, and to extend this to chapters/portions from the books.

Scenes I can't live without:

AUJ: Gandalf and Bilbo's conversation in Bag End
DOS: Flies and Spiders
FOTR: Gift-giving in Lothlorien
TTT: Fangorn Comes to Helm's Deep
ROTK: Shelob's Lair

Scenes I can live without:

AUJ: Orc/Radagast chase across Rhudaur
DOS: Barrels out of Bond
FOTR: The Council of Elrond
TTT: Gollum and Sméagol
ROTK: The Nazgûl and His Prey



BlackFox
Half-elven


Oct 18 2014, 12:17pm

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Mine [In reply to] Can't Post

Scenes I can't live without:

AUJ: An Unexpected Party
DOS: Inside Information
FOTR: Bucklebury Ferry
TTT: "Where is the Horse and the Rider?"
ROTK: The Lighting of the Beacons

Scenes I can live without:

AUJ: The Goblin-town Chase
DOS: The Bombunator
FOTR: "You can go no further."
TTT: Old Man Willow in Fangorn?!
ROTK: The Skull Avalanche



Bernhardina
Rohan


Oct 18 2014, 12:19pm

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Here's my list! [In reply to] Can't Post

Please, explain why you can live without the Council of Elrond scene? Frown
Here's my list Wink it was hard to pick just one moment from every film, but I tried my best!


Scenes I can't live without:


AUJ: Gandalf and Galadriel conversation (the most beautiful scene of the Hobbit trilogy so far)
DOS: Bilbo killing the babyspider-thing (just a character moment I like, how he is growing attached to the Ring)
FOTR: The Council of Elrond (I love council-scenes, I don't know why... perhaps because I like politics)
TTT: The last march of the Ents (nature strikes back wooo!)
ROTK: Arwen convinces Elrond to reforge the sword (from that moment she has the vision in the forest to the reforging itself, it is just a beautiful scene, everything about it is stunning and otherwordly)




Scenes I can live without:


AUJ: The Goblin King (I just think the character wasn't handled very well, he should have been more scary than comical imo. I can live without the cameo of Frodo as well...)
DOS: Breakfast with Beorn (wasn't very interesting to me)
FOTR: The guardian of the entrance to Moria (just another action sequence that I could easily skip)
TTT: Frodo and the Nazgul in Osgiliath (but Sams speech afterwards is great, that I can't live without)
ROTK: The ghost army in action (at first they try to break the mountain where they live, just to tell Aragorn that they will fight, which doesn't make any sense at all, and I also think the way they saved Minas Tirith could have looked better)



DwellerInDale
Rohan


Oct 18 2014, 12:22pm

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Okay, here are mine... [In reply to] Can't Post

For a few I had to flip a coin.
Scenes I can't live without:

FOTR: Strider, from At The Inn of the Prancing Pony (but it's a tossup with Arwen at the Ford)
TTT: Gandalf's fall with the Balrog
ROTK: Charge of the Rohirrim (...again tossup between this and Arwen's Vision)
AUJ: Galadriel to Gandalf: "Ae boe i le eliathon, im tulithon."
DOS: It IS Our Fight!

Scenes I can live without:

FOTR: Celeborn (worst casting in all five films).
TTT: Uruk-Hai meet up with Saruman's orcs (the Kiwi accents)
ROTK: Deagol lands his fish (worst acting in all five films)
AUJ: Weathertop (totally unnecessary)
DOS: Bilbo's fight with the Giant Pauropod (worst use of an edged weapon)


Don't mess with my favorite female elf.






DanielLB
Immortal


Oct 18 2014, 12:30pm

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I find it difficult to find fault with the FOTR movie [In reply to] Can't Post

So it was rather difficult coming up with a scene I could live without for the movie. I picked it because I think the Council would have been better had it been more of a council - i.e. closer to the book.

A complete book-to-movie adaptation of the chapter would have been tedious. However, I think the Council of Elrond could have been handled a little better. I think the film was trying to hint that the Ring was exerting its influence on the members there. Explaining Boromir's vision would have both established him better as a character (his name isn't even mentioned until they're well out of Rivendell) as well has helped develop Aragorn's storyline. Bilbo should have been present.

For me, the scene is the worst of a best bunch.



(This post was edited by DanielLB on Oct 18 2014, 12:32pm)


cats16
Half-elven


Oct 18 2014, 12:40pm

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Ooh, fun. [In reply to] Can't Post

I'll mull it over and come back in a couple of days. Although, I'll possibly be heavily biased by Hobbiton scenes after this weekend. Angelic



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Elutherian
Rohan


Oct 18 2014, 9:53pm

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Seems like favorite and least favorite scenes... [In reply to] Can't Post

...

I'll bite.

Scenes I can't live without:

AUJ - Gandalf and Galadriel scene in Rivendell
DOS - The Company entering Erebor (Thorin's and Balin's reactions)
FOTR - Boromir picking up the Ring at Caradhras
TTT - Gandalf and Theoden at Theodred's grave site
ROTK - The Ride of the Rohirrim

Scenes I can live without:

AUJ - Food throwing at Rivendell and Radagast's Rabbit Sled chase
DOS - Ninja-Bombur in Barrels Out of Bond
FOTR - None (I gave the extra scene to AUJ)
TTT - Treebeard's over dramatic poetry reading
ROTK - Extended Paths of the Dead scenes

The Grey Pilgrim, they once called me. Three hundred lives of men I walked this earth, and now I have no time...

(This post was edited by Elutherian on Oct 18 2014, 9:54pm)


dormouse
Half-elven


Oct 19 2014, 8:04am

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Hmmm...... [In reply to] Can't Post

Picking one from each film is far too hard - but I'll try...

Scenes I can't live without:
FotR - Lothlorien (or Frodo and Sam watching the Elves)
TT - Entmoot (or maybe Faramir remembering his last meeting with Boromir or Eowyn at Edoras, when the banner is torn away by the wind)
RotK - Arwen's vision of Eldarion (I could just as easily have chosen the Houses of Healing, or the eagles rescuing Frodo and Sam)

AUJ - At Bag End: "The world is not in your books and maps" and "Far over the Misty Mountains" (I'm calling them one scene :-) )
DoS - Feast of Starlight (this is a toss-up with Smaug confronting the golden statue; Smaug flying up into the night sky; Beorn's house.....)

Scenes I can live without:
FotR - Sorry, can't think of one
TT - Faramir's beating up Gollum while Faramir looked on (he would never have done that or allowed it to happen)
RotK - Shelob (necessary, I know, and exceptionally well realised, but I just don't like spiders or anything to do with them)

AUJ - Bilbo's 'having a reaction' line (far too modern)
DoS - Flies and spiders (see above!)


Kim
Valinor


Oct 19 2014, 7:06pm

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Well, let's see [In reply to] Can't Post

Scenes I can't live without:
  • AUJ: Misty Mountains Cold
  • DOS: Thorin vs. Thranduil
  • FOTR: Frodo and Sam see the wood-elves
  • TTT: the last march of the Ents
  • ROTK: the Beacons



Scenes I can live without:
  • AUJ: Weathertop (the one scene I have consistently skipped)
  • DOS: the orc attack in Lake-town
  • FOTR: Lurtz licking the knife
  • TTT: Helm's Deep (I know, but the dark/rainy/muddy/bloody battle just isn't my thing)
  • ROTK: Shelob (sorry, to this day, I just can't watch this scene because GIANT SPIDER!)




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Eye's on Guard
Lorien


Oct 19 2014, 8:28pm

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A few less notable ones for LoTR [In reply to] Can't Post

I can't live without:

FOTR: Sequence between Rivendell and Caradhras
TT: Gandalf and Aragorn discussing Frodo
ROTK: Hobbits back at the Green Dragon
AUJ: Entering Rivendell / Exchange with Elrond
DOS: Bilbo descending into Erebor / Talk with Balin

I can live without:

FOTR: Nazgul chasing Arwen/Frodo
TT: Warg attack
ROTK: Denethor's pyre
AUJ: Radagast intro
DOS: Playing with Smaug sequence

"When you think of the great Battle of Pelennor, do not forget the Battle of Dale. Think of what might have been. Dragon-fire and savage swords in Eriador! There might be no Queen in Gondor. We might now only hope to return from the victory here to ruin and ash. But that has been averted -- because I met Thorin Oakenshield one evening on the edge of spring not far from Bree. A chance-meeting, as we say in Middle-earth."
- Gandalf

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CuriousG
Half-elven


Oct 20 2014, 8:47pm

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Fun exercise [In reply to] Can't Post

I can't live without:

FOTR: Arwen & Frodo's flight to the Ford
TT: Helm's Deep
ROTK: Pippin lighting the Beacons (and singing to Denethor)
AUJ: Seeing Erebor and Dale at their prime
DOS: Smaug lying beneath a massive pile of treasure

I can live without:

FOTR: Council of Elrond never feels acted/staged right to me
TT: Warg attack
ROTK: Legolas soloing a mumakil crew
AUJ: Radagast & Sebastian
DOS: Barrels out of bond


LordotRings93
Rohan


Oct 21 2014, 7:45pm

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Here we go [In reply to] Can't Post

I love every scene, and feel every part adds to the overall film, so the "can live without" was very hard for me...

Scenes I Can't Live Without:

AUJ: Stone-troll fight (love when the Misty Mountains theme starts up!)
DOS: Barrels Out Of Bond (always get goosebumps when the scene begins the moment Bilbo falls into the river and the elves start scrambling to get them)
FOTR: Battle of Amon Hen (whole sequence is just spectacular!)
TTT: Frodo and the Nazgul at Osgiliath (Just love the layout of the scene, and Frodo's my favorite Middle-earth character and loved this moment of his)
ROTK: Witch-king vs Gandalf (always love this scene. When the Witch-king just speaks in that epic voice "Do you not know death...", especially in high-def Blu-ray... Chills.)

Scenes I Can Live Without:

AUJ: Rivendell dinner scene (again, is probably the scene I could miss if I had to, although I love Elrond examining the swords)
DOS: Bard giving the dwarves weapons (again, sort of a lull moment, so I could probably live without it)
FOTR: Gandalf going to Saruman (man, this was a hard decision...)
TTT: Elrond and Galadriel conversation (moment I could skip if I had to)
ROTK: Arwen seeing Eldarion (a moment that ultimately sort of drags for me)

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DanielLB
Immortal


Oct 21 2014, 9:48pm

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I might have to re-think my "Scenes I can't live without" having seen DOS:EE! / [In reply to] Can't Post

 



dormouse
Half-elven


Oct 21 2014, 10:17pm

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But... not... yet (or at least, keep it quiet awhile! // [In reply to] Can't Post

 


Faleel
Rohan


Oct 22 2014, 12:27pm

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Doesn't [In reply to] Can't Post

Doesn't Gandalf say his neame when he gets too close to the ring in the EE?


DanielLB
Immortal


Oct 22 2014, 9:00pm

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Did you mean to post this elsewhere? / [In reply to] Can't Post

 



Faleel
Rohan


Oct 23 2014, 1:42am

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No [In reply to] Can't Post

No?


dreamflower
Lorien

Oct 23 2014, 2:59am

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What fun! [In reply to] Can't Post

Scenes I can't live without:
AUJ: Bag End (from the time it switches over to younger Bilbo all the way up until he takes off running after the Dwarves)
DOS: The butterfly scene in Mirkwood.
FOTR: "Concerning Hobbits"
TTT: Eowyn watching the flag of Rohan floating down.
ROTK: "You bow to no one!" and the whole city bowing to the hobbits.
(This was hard. There were lots of runner-up scenes, especially in AUJ. "Riddles in the Dark" almost edged out Bag End.)


Scenes I could definitely live without:
AUJ: The crazy running fight in Goblin-town, especially the part at the end.
DOS: The "Morgul arrow" subplot, especially Tauriel and the athelas. (I like Tauriel, but that part was just too much for me.)
FOTR: Elrond talking about how Men are untrustworthy.
TTT: The Warg attack and Aragorn having a cliffie...literally.
ROTK: The whole Sam/lembas/Gollum subplot and Sam leaving Frodo.


DanielLB
Immortal


Oct 23 2014, 8:02am

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I must be missing the reason how your poat fits with mine then. [In reply to] Can't Post

Crazy



Ardamírë
Valinor


Oct 23 2014, 4:06pm

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Scenes I can't live without:

AUJ: Good Morning. Easily the best-adapted, straight-from-the-book scene in all five movies to date.
DOS: Entering Erebor, specifically Thorin's and Balin's reactions.
FOTR: Prologue. That's really just a guess. There are so many perfect scenes in that movie, so it's hard to pick just one!
TTT: Arwen's future. Might be the most poignant scene in all the movies so far.
ROTK: Merry's simple courage. I understand why it was cut from the TE, but I'm so glad it was inserted into the EE. Such a heartfelt scene between two great characters before potentially going to their deaths.

Scenes I can live without:
AUJ: The Frodo scene!! Mad My absolute least favorite scene in all six movies. (I'm just assuming nothing in BOFA will be as bad as this scene lol).
DOS: Laketown fight.
FOTR: I can't think of any. Is this movie perfect or something?
TTT: Old Man Willow in Fangorn (mainly because I can't think of anything else).
ROTK: Gilmli's antics in the Paths of the Dead. That chapter is so eerily creepy in the book and it's reduced to a Gimli joke...Unimpressed


grammaboodawg
Immortal


Oct 23 2014, 5:01pm

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Oh geez... pick just one??? [In reply to] Can't Post

FotR - Gandalf and Frodo talking in Mordor. The whole thing is just magical.
TT - Aragorn's arrival at Helm's Deep
RotK - Sam and Frodo finally resting above the lava-flow. The music, the tone, the emotion... just splendid!


AUJ - Gandalf resting against the tree, smoking his pipe and listening to the others
DOS - Bilbo bantering with Smaug... or the barrel ride!


Mercy... I really do have a buhzillion more!



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Ardamírë
Valinor


Oct 24 2014, 7:44pm

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What are your "can live without" moments, gramma?// [In reply to] Can't Post

 


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FoundEntwife
Rivendell


Oct 25 2014, 2:48am

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Let's see. . . [In reply to] Can't Post

What I can live without:

AUJ - Radagast's circular bunny-sled chase scene
DOS - Barrels out of Bond
FOTR - Can't really think of anything
TTT - Merry and Pippin squabbling over who's taller
ROTK - Smeagol turning into Gollum in the beginning of the film and biting into that raw fish (gross!)

What I can't live without:

AUJ - the dwarves singing at Bag End
DOS - Smaug!
FOTR - All of the Shire scenes in the first half of the film
TTT - Gandalf's return!
ROTK - The charge of the Rohirrim

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ElendilTheShort
Gondor


Oct 25 2014, 5:10am

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kiwi accents?!?! what the flip [In reply to] Can't Post

Ummmmm take it from a kiwi they don't have kiwi accents. More liked butchered cockney.


ElendilTheShort
Gondor


Oct 25 2014, 5:35am

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only 5 of each is tough [In reply to] Can't Post

Can't live without

FOTR Boromir's last stand
TTT Foundations of stone
ROTK Lighting the beacons (mountains, stars, so much Tolkien)
AUJ dwarves singing in Bag End
DOS ninja bombur (the purist in me hates myself a little for this guilty pleasure)

These should be on the cutting room floor.

FOTR "Gandalf is Mordor to the left or right"
TTT Aragrons intro to Eomer, so weak compared to....well anything especially the power of Aragorn in this scene in the book
ROTK skull avalanche
AUJ Radagast going in circles on the bunny sled leading the wolves back to the dwarves numerous times
DOS Thorin standing on Smaugs mouth.....and living. Yeah right!


(This post was edited by ElendilTheShort on Oct 25 2014, 5:37am)

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