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NateGate
Rivendell
Oct 21 2014, 11:35pm
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AUJ more polished than DOS...hopes for BOT5A...
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Am I the only one who feels like AUJ was overall more polished and fluid than DOS? In terms of CGI, scripting, dialogue, editing, and pretty much editing? I hope they take the time to polish BOT5A properly....
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Spriggan
Tol Eressea
Oct 21 2014, 11:38pm
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Overall, I would probably say the reverse.
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Joe20
Lorien
Oct 21 2014, 11:43pm
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I certainly prefer AUJ over DOS, though there are specific scenes within DOS I prefer (EE version of Dol Guldur, Bilbo Smaug covo, Bilbo Balin coversation etc.). It feels more like a 'movie' with characters having discernible arcs unlike Desolation which, I think, seems to suffer from the middle instalment issue.
And after watch the appendices section for the Smaugs vs. Dwarves segment of DOS I definitely think AUJ was far more polished. (Though it was obviously rushed too.)
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burgahobbit
Rohan
Oct 21 2014, 11:43pm
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Haven't seen the entire EE so can't comment for sure
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But from what I have seen...definitely, couldn't agree more! The theatrical editions of both definitely leave me favoring AUJ.
"I've found it is the small things, everyday deeds of ordinary folk, that keeps the darkness at bay. Simple acts of kindness and love. Why Bilbo Baggins? Perhaps it is because I’m afraid, and he gives me courage.” - Gandalf the Grey.
"Do not be afraid Mithrandir, if ever you should need my help, I will come." - Lady Galadriel.
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KeenObserver
Lorien
Oct 21 2014, 11:46pm
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AUJ remains my favourite action-adventure fantasy flick and my favourite Middle-earth movie.
It's because it has heart and charm.
These elements are mostly absent (and perhaps understandably so) from the more urgent and
weighty middle chapter.
The technical aspects of both instalments are of course top notch (despite dodgy CGI) but DoS
does have an 'awkwardness' about it (IMHO).
”The thirst for adventure is the vent which Destiny offers; a war, a crusade, a gold mine, a new country, speak to the imagination and offer…” - Jose Bergamin
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tsmith675
Gondor
Oct 21 2014, 11:48pm
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And anyone that can say the CGI is better in AUJ than it is in DoS is crazy.
Our destiny lies above us.
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Bernhardina
Rohan
Oct 22 2014, 12:12am
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I think both films are at the same level, but I prefer the adventure-aspect of AUJ.
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delius82
Rivendell
Oct 22 2014, 3:23am
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AUJ remains my favourite action-adventure fantasy flick and my favourite Middle-earth movie.
It's because it has heart and charm.
These elements are mostly absent (and perhaps understandably so) from the more urgent and
weighty middle chapter.
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I'm in total agreement with this. DOS really hits the ground running and some of its luster dims because of this. But AUJ's heart and charm really carry it through.
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Intergalactic Lawman
Rohan
Oct 22 2014, 5:36am
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They are horrible. Why leave them in the film I wonder?? Those scenes were not needed...
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Dipling
Lorien
Oct 22 2014, 6:31am
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That is the only thing that bothers me. How couldn't they repair this CGI in DOS EE?
It's not even normal WETA level. They could have fix this. We shall see what Peter thinks of it (EE commentaries).
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Carne
Tol Eressea
Oct 22 2014, 8:49am
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When Bilbo toys with the spider web there's a shot of the digital dwarf doubles walking down a path. They fact that they're so close to the camera yet CG annoyed me.
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Glorfindela
Valinor
Oct 22 2014, 9:38am
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Yes, definitely agree with you
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I feel DoS was a mess (despite many good visuals), with a few shallow nonsensical scenes thrown in, and important character development scenes left out.
Am I the only one who feels like AUJ was overall more polished and fluid than DOS? In terms of CGI, scripting, dialogue, editing, and pretty much editing? I hope they take the time to polish BOT5A properly....
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QuackingTroll
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Oct 22 2014, 12:03pm
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The EE makes all the difference...
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DoS feels much less "messy" and flows a lot better when Beorn is more fleshed out and Mirkwood is less rushed, not to mention Dol Guldur being transformed.
The Theatrical Edition of AUJ is still probably the best of the four. But Extended Smaug is second on the list. With Extended AUJ third and Theatrical DoS way on the bottom - it was a confusing mess of a film.
That isn't the order of which films I enjoy most, I actually prefer the Extended AUJ. But is purely in terms of feeling polished and planned and not cobbled together in a rush, if that makes sense?
The Extended AUJ is a little messy, but I love the scenes, I even love the Great Goblin's song (guilty pleasure), even if they're not edited in very well.
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schadowfax
The Shire
Oct 22 2014, 12:48pm
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except for the stone giants, that was the biggest distraction of the entire movie for me, it almost took me out of the experience. yes a good moment of peril and adventure in the book but on screen it was a tad meh. that's just my humble opinion, mad props to the weta team for the effort and work in the cgi and compositing. DOS as much as i love it is a slight mess compared to AUJ. AUJ also doesn't have that hazy blurry tint that dos had! i understand pj's justification but it really made it feel plastic. i actually found a torrent the other day of some guy who regraded it and removed or lessened the green tint, screencaps look pretty good.
http://screencapped.net/...15#top_display_media
i like this scene alot but the hazy dawn, saturation, and feathering puts me off. again, props to the team for the hard work, i mean not to take away from the effort and value of their efforts. yes the cgi in both had a few dodgy comps (moreso DOS) but there's nothing we as viewers can do about it.
i'm optimistic about botfa :)
"You must stay on the path, do not leave it. If you do, you'll never find it again. No matter what may come, stay on the path!" - Gandalf
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schadowfax
The Shire
Oct 22 2014, 12:53pm
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best out out of the lot so far. in a way i think it also felt more "ringsy" if you know what i mean.
"You must stay on the path, do not leave it. If you do, you'll never find it again. No matter what may come, stay on the path!" - Gandalf
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