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The Grey Elf
Grey Havens
Oct 16 2014, 1:08pm
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Will you be disappointed if you don't cry at the end of BOTFA?
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This question is in the context of certain dramatic turns at the end of the story, not whether or not you are pleased with the movie as a whole. 
Those of us who know what's coming claim to dread it but, secretly, don't we all love a good cry at the movies? So ironically, for myself, if I don't cry, I will feel disappointed because, on the surface, it seems to suggest that I haven't really connected with PJ's telling. And because I cried at the end of ROTK and feel I should again at the finish of The Hobbit. :-)
But sometimes it's just due to anticipation. It's possible to raise your expectations so high, you make it impossible to be impressed with what you know is coming. I've seen several greatly hyped movies that left me feeling let down and I don't think it was necessarily because it wasn't all it was claimed to be.
Am I overthinking this? Probably. But what does everyone feel anyway? 
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Arannir
Valinor
Oct 16 2014, 1:28pm
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I rarely cry because of a movie.
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Especially not when I kind of know what and how it will happen.
It is more the movies that surprise me with a sad twist that get me teary... although I don't think I ever really broke out in tears. Maybe watery eyes.
I would be disappointed, though, if it wouldn't feel very emotional and moving.
I hope for an ending that is very emotional and rewarding... that will make me feel "Yes, even with all the flaws I see in these movies - it was worth it and in the end it all came together and is well".
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BlackFox
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Oct 16 2014, 1:35pm
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I'm an Estonian after all: cold and emotionless. 
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Arannir
Valinor
Oct 16 2014, 1:39pm
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That is what my American roommate said to be when I told her I loved Titanic as a movie but that it was inconceivable for me to cry when Jack dies: "Germans..."
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Elanor of Rohan
Lorien
Oct 16 2014, 1:42pm
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my friends even tease me and call me "heart of stone" or something like that.
You name it, I have never cried about it.
But there is a big exception to this rule: the Return of the King. I cried a whole hour, starting with Frodo failing to remember the taste of strawberries while he was ascending Mount Doom.
I even cried while finishing the book (another unheard-of thing for me).
Since witnessing the deaths of all the Durins will be a hard blow for everyone on these boards, I imagine I will have to discreetly tuck in my pocket a small amount of tissues...
Just in case, you know
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Bracegirdle
Valinor
Oct 16 2014, 3:11pm
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cold & emotionless? Baloney BlackFox !! //
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I have lottsa English/Welsh blood. I cry lots - but not in front of anyone!! 
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Annael
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Oct 16 2014, 3:37pm
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The question is "will I be as disappointed with BotFA as I have been with the first two Hobbit movies?"
I'll go see it, but my expectations are not high.
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Bracegirdle
Valinor
Oct 16 2014, 4:36pm
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"will I be as disappointed with BotFA as I have been with the first two Hobbit movies?" As I'm assuming you read the book many times before the movies came out and your mind's eye had its imaginings of the people, places, and events, and Jackson's interpretations just don't always mesh.
OT How about LOTR?
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BlackFox
Half-elven
Oct 16 2014, 5:09pm
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It's the truth. The little spark I have in me I use up on these boards, leaving none for the real me.  
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Bracegirdle
Valinor
Oct 16 2014, 5:58pm
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*sheds a tear for the both of us* Nobody's looking!
But let me know in 50 years if you still consider yourself "cold and emotionless". Perhaps it's age that gives us excessive sensitivity.
But, alas! I shall be West of the Moon by then. 
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BlackFox
Half-elven
Oct 16 2014, 6:03pm
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A tendency to exaggerate.
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Alassëa Eruvande
Valinor
Oct 16 2014, 6:05pm
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Not even The Little Eruvandes are very excited about the last installment. Heck, we haven't even bought DOS on dvd, extended or otherwise. I'm not sure we ever will.
We'll go see it, of course, but I expect my main reaction will be to cringe. 
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Aunt Dora Baggins
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Oct 16 2014, 6:06pm
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I was really disappointed that I didn't cry at the end of RotK
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Really, really disappointed. I always cry when I read the books. And I cry at the freaking cartoon when Frodo sails. I was expecting to melt into a puddle, and I didn't. (I cried other places in the movie; the beacon scene, for example.)
But I haven't been emotionally engaged with the Hobbit movies, except for the lovely "Good morning" scene. So frankly I'll be a little surprised if I cry. But it could happen.
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Ataahua
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Oct 16 2014, 6:33pm
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I don't remember if I cried at The Grey Havens scene,
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but I did blub at the charge of the Rohirrim. Go figure.
I hope the forgiveness of Thorin is so heartbreaking that my eyes get a bit sweaty, but I won't be disappointed if I'm dry-eyed as long as the scene is still superb.
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Aunt Dora Baggins
Immortal
Oct 16 2014, 7:43pm
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I did buy AUJ, and started to watch it, and got bored once we left Bag End and gave it up. I saw both of them in the theater once, and that seemed like enough.
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Meneldor
Valinor
Oct 16 2014, 7:54pm
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I am man. Hear me grunt.
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Otaku-sempai
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Oct 16 2014, 7:56pm
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The movie shouldn't end on a sad note.
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Now the immediate fall-out from the titular battle, that would be different.
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Magpie
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Oct 16 2014, 8:02pm
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I haven't watched DOS TE since seeing it in the theater. I haven't seen either EE versions. I don't own any of the four.
I did buy the soundtracks.
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Bracegirdle
Valinor
Oct 16 2014, 8:15pm
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“blub” at the charge of the Rohirrim – but I DID jump out of my chair screaming “GO Theoden! Go!” One of my very all time favorite book passages.
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Kilidoescartwheels
Valinor
Oct 16 2014, 8:31pm
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I can't imagine not crying (Spoiler)
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Yeah, I know what's coming, and I'm not looking forward to it. Truth is, I didn't like the book too much because of that particular event, not so much Thorin as the other two. I am hoping that the last scene in the movie will be Gandalf and Balin paying Bilbo a visit, and I WILL be disappointed if that doesn't happen. However, I also expect to see lovely drawings of the characters as the credits roll, and when a certain three faces come up I'll probably start crying again.
I DID cry at the end of RoTK, both the ship sailing "Into the West" and the artwork were very emotional. Another sad reason is that this will probably be the LAST trip to Middle Earth, at least with PJ. And the fact that I won't be seeing the final movie in Wellington like I'd hoped is also sad, but that's another story altogether/sniff!
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Donry
Tol Eressea
Oct 16 2014, 9:39pm
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Won't bother me at all. If it is a bad movie, that will bother me.
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Annael
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Oct 16 2014, 9:56pm
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I was never much of a "Hobbit" fan, like I was a LOTR fan.
I just feel that PJ indulges his love of making a mountain out of every tiny molehill in the story too much - and more with each film he makes - so that the original story is nearly buried or changed out of recognition. I loved FOTR the most. Although, as you note, I had to adjust to those things that weren't as I had always imagined them, still enough of it was recognizable - Bilbo, Gandalf, Galadriel, Rivendell, Hobbiton especially - for me to enjoy the story. And really, apart from compressing the timeline, PJ didn't stray too far from Tolkien on that one. Then came TTT and the Wargs - giant hyenas instead of wolves, with riders? Uh, no. Aragorn's fake death was unnecessary, as was Faramir's detour into not-so-upright-Faramir. But still, not too far off track.
Then we got ROTK with Flaming Denethor, rolling skulls, the Scrubbing Bubbles of Death, the Giant Pink Orc, and Killer Oliphaunts - NONE of which added a thing to the movie. But once again, not enough to make me hate it, and he got a lot of things right.
Ten years go by, we get the first Hobbit film - and there's been a corresponding growth in the "I'm going to make as many things as I can as extreme as I can, and if I can't find something in the story to blow up way out of proportion, I will just make stuff up" attitude.
He's gone the way of Lucas and Spielberg. All of them need to hire really good scriptwriters and editors and LISTEN TO THEM, instead of this rampant self-indulgence. But as long as people still flock to their movies, I doubt that will happen.
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Dwarewien
Rohan
Oct 16 2014, 10:10pm
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since even thinking about what will happen to Thorin makes me tear up (seriously). Even that scene near the end of AUJ makes me cry (every single time, even though I know that Thorin isn't really dead. Every time I see that scene, I want to go into the movie at that point and hit Azog in the face with his own weapon. I'm also rooting for Bilbo to do something), so I can just imagine what BoFA will do. The last movie that made me cry (that I viewed in theaters) was Titanic (and not because of an individual character, but I cried when the Titanic went down, since I've been an ocean aficionado ever since).
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joec_34
Rivendell
Oct 16 2014, 10:57pm
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I don't cry very often, but I did cry the first to.e that I saw Meet The Parents. I guess I just felt bad for Ben Stiller at the (almost) end. Funny memory.
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