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Mooseboy018
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Sep 22 2014, 1:43am
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Any specific lines or moments from the book you're hoping to find in the EE?
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I have a couple moments from the book that I'm crossing my fingers for.
The first one is when Gandalf introduces himself, and Beorn just says "never heard of him." I think that'd be great to have in the movie. It'd be sort of unexpected because everyone always seems to know who Gandalf is at least to some degree. And it's a fun way of introducing Beorn's character. I have a feeling it won't make it in though. Beorn in the movie seems to be a little more knowledgeable about current events compared to in the book.
I'm also hoping for some sort of exchange between Thorin and Thranduil that's at least inspired by the "we were starving in the forest" conversation. Of course it can't play out exactly like the book because they've already changed so much. Thorin wasn't captured separately, and it was never established (and probably won't be even in the EE) that they were starving. We know a proper introduction to Thranduil was shot, which included the "where does your journey end?" line from the trailer. So I'm hoping that that scene ends up in the EE along with some book inspired sass from Thorin.
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OrangeBerserk
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Sep 22 2014, 3:53am
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Aside from the scenes we already know and expecting to see. I would like to see the Feast of Starlight.
In the Theatrical version, it seemed kind of random how Kili suddenly said "seems like quite a party you're having up there". It would make sense for there to be a sequence with the Elves dining and it would also lead on to Barrel Escape scene with Elros and Gallion drinking wine down in the cellar and then Bilbo retrieving the keys.
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QueenCirce
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Sep 22 2014, 4:53am
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I am hoping for a lot more of Gandalf.
Especially some more magic when he fights/talks with Thrain.
I also want to see if the dwarf ring is mentioned as it was certainly a breadcrumb device in the white council EE.
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Avandel
Half-elven
Sep 22 2014, 5:47am
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Thorin's bow shot at the stag/deer
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Which we know was filmed, tho I assume the deer would be CGI. Tho looks like the whole story re Bombur was changed. I am really excited for the EE!
And more Thorin and more re the feast would be amazing.
Hó , Það sé ég föður minn
Hó , Það sé ég móður mína, og Hó, Það sé ég bræður mínir og systur mínar
Hó , Það sé ég mitt fólk aftur í byrjun
Hó, gera Þeir kalla til mín, og bjóða mér að taka minn stað meðal þeirra í sölum Valhallar
Hvar hugrakkir mun lifa að eilífu
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Shagrat
Gondor
Sep 22 2014, 7:13am
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I love Beorn's 'Never heard of him' line, and dearly hope it is included. You could imagine Gandalf bigging himself up to Bilbo beforehand, introducing himself in grand style, there's silence as Beorn ponders for a few seconds, and then he delivers the line, going back to chopping his wood as Gandalf appears momentarily befuddled and Bilbo looks at him in disbelief. You could get a really good laugh out of that scene, but at the same time it would continue the mystery and threat of Beorn for a while longer.
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Cirashala
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Sep 22 2014, 7:20am
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if you listen closely, you can hear lots of voices chattering and laughing above the dungeons, and a wee bit of music playing, right before he says that 
I would love to see that scene though
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Rembrethil
Tol Eressea
Sep 22 2014, 5:26pm
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The Enchanted River, which is confirmed.
An extended Beorn-Gandalf and Co interaction, which seems to be confirmed.
More High Fells.
Thrain, which is confirmed.
More Thranduil dialogue, specifically 'Where does your journey end?'. That trailer gave me goosebumps, and I want to hear the full speech!!
Fingers crossed!!
Call me Rem, and remember, not all who ramble are lost...Uh...where was I?
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Nuradar
Rohan
Sep 22 2014, 6:09pm
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The limited amount of Beorn we see in the theatrical version was my biggest complaint of DOS. Mostly because it was my favorite part of the book. The trailer of the EE shows more scenes with Beorn, so I'm hoping it will satisfy my Beorn fix...
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MouthofSauron
Tol Eressea
Sep 23 2014, 4:36am
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Gandalf/Thrain scene?
The flames of war are upon you..
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Mooseboy018
Grey Havens
Sep 23 2014, 5:28am
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Thrain was shown in the trailer for the extended edition.
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redgiraffe
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Sep 23 2014, 8:23am
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Tho looks like the whole story re Bombur was changed.
Wait, do you mean there is news that this was cut form the EE?
-Sir are you classified as human
-Negative, I am a meat-popsicle
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Rembrethil
Tol Eressea
Sep 23 2014, 2:20pm
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I don't know if any will be added...
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but I know they filmed more. Maybe it was part of AUJ then cut so it might not fit anymore, but I just got the feeling that the plot with the High Fells was left just a wee bit underdeveloped. But that just be me wanting more backstory and lore added to the films.
Who else wants to see the Fall of Angmar in a flashback!? Anyone?
Call me Rem, and remember, not all who ramble are lost...Uh...where was I?
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Arannir
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Sep 23 2014, 2:22pm
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Who else wants to see the Fall of Angmar in a flashback!? Anyone?
Imho the background story needs a clearer focus, not a broader one.
"I am afraid it is only too likely to be true what you say about the critics and the public. I am dreading the publication for it will be impossible not to mind what is said. I have exposed my heart to be shot at." J.R.R. Tolkien
We all have our hearts and minds one way or another invested in these books and movies. So we all mind and should show the necessary respect.
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NoelGallagher
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Sep 23 2014, 2:39pm
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do you know what stuff they filmed more ?
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but I know they filmed more. Maybe it was part of AUJ then cut so it might not fit anymore, but I just got the feeling that the plot with the High Fells was left just a wee bit underdeveloped. But that just be me wanting more backstory and lore added to the films.
Who else wants to see the Fall of Angmar in a flashback!? Anyone?
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Rembrethil
Tol Eressea
Sep 23 2014, 6:38pm
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Personally, I have the fear that this ship has sailed, and we will see no more of the High Fells. The AUJ trailer with the tombs, 'broken open from the inside', got my hopes up, and I missed those shots.
Still, there is another film to go, and I hope they resolve all my unanswered questions!!
Call me Rem, and remember, not all who ramble are lost...Uh...where was I?
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Rembrethil
Tol Eressea
Sep 23 2014, 6:54pm
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Well, I am basing my statements in a trailer...
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Specifically the one with Gandalf and Radaghast in the High Fells, where the line about the tombs being, 'broken open from the inside', was uttered. That trailer fired my imagination (in much the same way the DoS trailer with Thranduil's line: Where does your journey end?) and I missed the lines/footage in the theatrical cuts. I was further disappointed that the EE of AUJ did not include it. I'm afraid that we might be facing the possibility that we may never see the shots incorporated.
I, personally think that a build up of the High Fell mystery, leading to the story of Angmar and the identification entombed men, leading to revelation that their leader, the Witch King, owed allegiance to Sauron, with a note on their possession of the Nine rings, then leading to the full story of their resurrection, and finally the reason for their return: the rise of Sauron, would have made a tad better (read: longer) film.
Remember, the Ringwraiths had always been mortal in the past. This is the first time they have become incorporeal creatures of terror. It is something new to Gandalf and the WC, so the opportunity for a grand mystery is there. They had no proof that the RW's were not dead and gone,(Indeed at this time the term had not been coined) and no information on the rings'/Sauron's powers to resurrect them.
A missed opportunity in my opinion, but I am enjoying the films, nonetheless!! Here's to hoping we see a satisfying conclusion!!!
Call me Rem, and remember, not all who ramble are lost...Uh...where was I?
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Otaku-sempai
Immortal
Sep 23 2014, 7:19pm
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Don't take this wrong, but are you reading/watching a foreign-language edition of the books and/or films? I ask because of your spelling of Radagast.
'There are older and fouler things than Orcs in the deep places of the world.' - Gandalf the Grey, The Fellowship of the Ring
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Rembrethil
Tol Eressea
Sep 23 2014, 7:25pm
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Augh!!! The evils of Autocorrect!!!!
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I mis-spell in one time on my iPod, and now the infernal machine thinks that it's the only way to spell it!
*Sigh*
Thanks Otaku!
Call me Rem, and remember, not all who ramble are lost...Uh...where was I?
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Otaku-sempai
Immortal
Sep 23 2014, 7:30pm
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I was wondering because Radaghast is a valid, historical spelling of the name that predated Tolkien.
'There are older and fouler things than Orcs in the deep places of the world.' - Gandalf the Grey, The Fellowship of the Ring
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Salmacis81
Tol Eressea
Sep 24 2014, 6:38pm
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...the Nazgul had been known for thousands of years. They first appeared in the middle of the 2nd Age.
I know that things are quite different in film-universe, but how do we know that "This is the first time [the Nazgul] have become incorporeal creatures of terror"? It's never been outrighted stated that the Nazgul were still mortal when they were trapped in these High Fells. I always just assumed that they were already in their "wraith" forms when they were entombed.
Anyway, while I enjoyed the atmosphere of the High Fells scene, I really didn't appreciate how far the writers deviated from the history of the Nazgul as Tolkien wrote it. So I'd rather they focused on adding to other parts of the story.
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mae govannen
Tol Eressea
Sep 25 2014, 1:44pm
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Didn't everyone see the DOS EE trailer just released
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I can come here only now and then, and am surprised this time not to see a whole thread already about this EE trailer. Or is it already long past, kind of??? News ca move so fast sometimes on these TORn boards!...
'Is everything sad going to come untrue?'
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mae govannen
Tol Eressea
Sep 25 2014, 1:51pm
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Any lines written down somewhere from the EE trailer?
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I was hoping to see a whole analysis of this trailer somewhere on TORn, but I can't seem to find any, The trailer doesn't seem to be even mentioned on Home?!? I don't understand. Could someone please clarify the situation for me, or post a link to the relevant DOS EE trailer info?...
'Is everything sad going to come untrue?'
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mae govannen
Tol Eressea
Sep 25 2014, 1:56pm
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'Is everything sad going to come untrue?'
(Sam, 'The Field of Cormallen', in 'The Return of the King'.)
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