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A John Howe & Alan Lee Appreciation THREAD?

Bombadil
Half-elven


Sep 21 2014, 11:01am

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A John Howe & Alan Lee Appreciation THREAD? Can't Post

1. Likely the Greatest HIRE for us
was PJ, Fran, & OUR Fabulous Phillipa

DID
... was to Hire & convince
THEZZE DUDES?
to move to NZ

2. Set up SHOP

3. Become Fast Friendzz

4.HELP Realize LOTR

5.Send Fans into Outer Space? (KING Kong...Avatar,,,etc..)

6. Quietly BLOW Everyonezz Minds with THEIR Designzz?

7. YET? kept an extremely Low Profile...

Don't you jus' LOVE thoszz DUDEzz?

WELL @Least fur badass bomby they are the Heros
(the Wizards behind the Movie theater Curtain)
ALL the While.... PJ izzzz

Producing Smoke & Mirrorss..?

+snicker+ +snicker+

ALL Hail SIR Alan & John!

WHO DAT?

Crazy

www.charlie-art.biz
"What Your Mind can conceive... charlie can achieve"


Elarie
Grey Havens

Sep 21 2014, 1:05pm

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Great idea, Bomby [In reply to] Can't Post

Looking at their designs in the movies, the appendices, and the books is beyond impressive. Super size kudos to both of them, along with the people who hired them and all the crew members who translate their designs into the finished products.

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If this is to end in barrels, then we will all shampoo together.


Otaku-sempai
Immortal


Sep 21 2014, 1:20pm

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Huzzah! [In reply to] Can't Post

Agreed. Much of their work for these films was truly magnificent.

'There are older and fouler things than Orcs in the deep places of the world.' - Gandalf the Grey, The Fellowship of the Ring


Bombadil
Half-elven


Sep 21 2014, 3:41pm

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Howe do you Explain that Alan got an Oscar? [In reply to] Can't Post

in 2004 BUT John didn't?

@Least fur me they are

ONE & The Same..
(Twins born from different Motherz).

Thiz World would
BE..much Less
Beautiful..?

If Thos..uzz Amazizzzin' dudes did NOT GET
Born.

May it BE?
THEY
are the Ultimate TolkienGEEKZZ?

SURE Otherz have spent plenty of time trying to Translate
Our Professors World into Pen & Ink..
BUT It seems there is no one else who Livezz & Breathzz
that
can EVEN
Come-zzzzzzzz
CLOSE?

Another amaz-ing FACT..

They hadn't EVER even MET
until they got off Airplanes in NZ
about 18 years ago?

THEY are Truly an Inspriration to Everyone!
{..In our collective... TolkienWORLD...}

JUS'...Another
Bombastic Post from THAT
BlowHard-Weirdo
Hidin' in the Old Forest?

[ Too Weirrrrd- to make IT? into ANY Film]
Crazy

www.charlie-art.biz
"What Your Mind can conceive... charlie can achieve"


Magpie
Immortal


Sep 21 2014, 3:59pm

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The both functioned as conceptual designers [In reply to] Can't Post

but neither were nominated for that role.

Lee was nominated and won (along with Dan Hennah) for set designer. Howe wasn't a set designer.

I'm not sure if conceptual design is even something that can win an Oscar. I can't find a good list that might indicate if is it isn't.


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Bombadil
Half-elven


Sep 21 2014, 4:35pm

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Thang you Berry Buch.."OUR Beautiful Birdy"? [In reply to] Can't Post

it is Ever-so wonderful
When "Maggie-May.. the Magnificent"
putzz Bom on your List for
sum Reserach

Bom Bows ONCE Again to
The Once & Future Queen
of allTthingiezzz... Tolkien?

Bom Loves you LOTZZZ!

Bombzz Heart Flys FAST to where Ever you ARE?

{ Seen any Ravenzz yet in "MinTa-Shown-gun?"
Minn-DE-SOTA.?.."MinneHappy -o-Polis?"or Minnie-HA HA Michigan?}

Name one "Bomby"?
AND one
"Goldberry"..TOO!

HeartHeartHeartHeartHeart
Crazy

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"What Your Mind can conceive... charlie can achieve"


Avandel
Half-elven


Sep 21 2014, 4:36pm

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Wonderful classy artists! [In reply to] Can't Post

Not only do I love their concept art, but love the fact that they come in behind the actual filming, and are filling in and "expanding space" well beyond the actual sets. And love, love, love the concept art for the dwarf aesthetic and the thought that was put into that, and the artwork itself. AMAZING guys who have done some classic illustrations for Tolkiens's works - beautiful.






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Hó , Það sé ég móður mína, og Hó, Það sé ég bræður mínir og systur mínar
Hó , Það sé ég mitt fólk aftur í byrjun
Hó, gera Þeir kalla til mín, og bjóða mér að taka minn stað meðal þeirra í sölum Valhallar
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VeArkenstone
Lorien

Sep 21 2014, 7:20pm

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Agreed! They are amazing! [In reply to] Can't Post

 

Please, call me Ve.


Loresilme
Valinor


Sep 22 2014, 12:13am

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Yes! [In reply to] Can't Post

The two quiet guys in the background....without their vision and brilliance and dedication, where would we be, without them?!

Applause, applause for JW & AL Smile!!


Otaku-sempai
Immortal


Sep 22 2014, 2:00pm

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Magpie explained it. [In reply to] Can't Post


In Reply To
Howe do you Explain that Alan got an Oscar? in 2004 BUT John didn't?
Crazy



As Maggie stated, Howe simply was not eligible for that category. If there is a category in the technical Oscars for Conceptual Designers then they should have both been nominated together!

'There are older and fouler things than Orcs in the deep places of the world.' - Gandalf the Grey, The Fellowship of the Ring


Kerewyn
Rohan


Sep 25 2014, 11:50am

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I have really enjoyed... [In reply to] Can't Post

...their work in the Chronicles Art & Design books (and also the landscape / environments by Gus Hunter).

I like how, on one of the DVD appendices or production diaires, you get to see AL and JH head off with their pads to a hillside, and just start sketching. I think it might have been planning the Hobbiton set.

A reliable source told me he watched Alan Lee doing a drawing from start to finish, and that it happens in a most unusual way (well this particular drawing did, anyway). Most artists will first sketch out a basic composition, planning where the main elements on the page will fall, then starting to fill in, often from the middle outwards. Whereas AL started at the very top of the page, filling in every detail, finishing that portion, before moving steadily downwards. Like an Etch-A-Sketch in reverse (if you know the kids item I mean) revealing the drawing instead of erasing it.
As though AL is revealing something that has always been there on the page. That to me is akin to Michaelangelo revealing the figure that has always been waiting inside the block of marble. For my source, who is also a talented artist, watching AL at work was something quite amazing. Smile



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moreorless
Gondor

Sep 25 2014, 1:08pm

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I think they "got" the atmosphere of Jackson's Hobbit very well.. [In reply to] Can't Post

For me the main achievement of these films is actually how they are able to walk the middle ground between the tone of LOTR and the Hobbit book and I think Lee and Howe's designs are a big part of that.

The designs in the Hobbit have enough of the realism of LOTR to sell that it exists in the same world but theres also a more fantastical element to many of them. Erebor is less epic than Moria but more "mechanical", Goblin Town is even more ramshackle than the orcs dwelling in Isenguard, The Elf Kings halls take Lorien and add in a touch more fantasy, Laketown takes the norse influences from Rohan and plays them up even more, etc.


(This post was edited by moreorless on Sep 25 2014, 1:08pm)


Kim
Valinor


Sep 26 2014, 2:36am

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Wow, that's really cool [In reply to] Can't Post

I'm in awe of anyone who can draw/sketch/paint, and the description of Alan Lee's process is amazing. When I got the first Art & Design book, I was really fascinated by all of the little sketches of props in AUJ, and was inspired to try to copy some. Didn't get too far in that endeavor because I can't draw (ha!). So, I must be content to sit back and admire their work and marvel at the world they've visualized and help bring to life.


However, I am still waiting for them to finish up their 3D drawings. As far as I can tell, they only did the one. Tongue



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