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Apparently, Elves Are The Ninjas of Middle Earth? Who will be the ultimate Ninja...lol...
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Girdle of Melian
Lorien

Aug 26 2014, 6:43pm

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Apparently, Elves Are The Ninjas of Middle Earth? Who will be the ultimate Ninja...lol... Can't Post

So who would you like to see execute the coolest moves in the upcoming film?

Legolas, Tauriel, Galadriel (short appearance only though), Thandruil or Elrond?

We've seen what Legolas and Tauriel can do, but Thandruil not yet, as well as Galadriel, and very little of Elrond (and I don't remember seeing anything special). Should it be reserved for Thandruil when he goes into battle, or Galadriel when she "loses her mind" apparently, or Elrond whom I think will be used to deal with orc army in the battle of Dol Guldur. Or maybe it will be Tauriel before she apparently gets killed...hmmm....

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VValar
Gondor


Aug 26 2014, 7:08pm

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I'm rooting for Thranduil [In reply to] Can't Post

Having seen just a tiny bit of his fighting in the teaser, I'm already expecting quite a lot. And as LP said: he is a real game-changer when he enters the battle. So that is setting the bar quite high.
And if Legolas' fighting is any indicator of how well his dad fights, we're in for a treat. Seeing as it would be logical that Thranduil (as he is older and has more experience in battle) would surpass his son in fighting technique and speed.


elf-lady
Rivendell

Aug 26 2014, 8:21pm

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Thranduil! [In reply to] Can't Post

Didn't someone in the production say that when he enters battle he's a "game changer"? I definitely want to see cool (but not silly) moves from him. Other than Thranduil it would be cool to see Galadriel and Elrond get all medieval on orcs and wargs!


Kilidoescartwheels
Gondor


Aug 26 2014, 8:21pm

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Pretty much what he said [In reply to] Can't Post

There's a clip out there somewhere of Thranduil holding a sword in his left hand using a reverse-grip. I imagine Lee Pace (or his stunt double) had to work really hard to perfect that. I don't see Galadrial with a sword, probably more her "In place of a dark lord you will have a QUEEN" mode, which could also be epic!

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Glorfindela
Valinor


Aug 26 2014, 11:30pm

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Thranduil [In reply to] Can't Post

Way over every other 'Elf'. Thranduil is the most Elf-like of all the 'Elves' by far (LotR and Hobbit), and has grace and a huge amount of acting ability. He really plays the part well. I really want to see a lot more of him.

After him, I think Elrond is very impressive – as seen, for instance, in the Prologue to FotR – and he looks great in armour both in the LotR films, and such a long time later, in The Hobbit. With him, there really is no difference between then and now, as far as I can see.

Personally, I would not like to see Galadriel fight – and certainly wouldn't like to see that horrible (to me) green phase in FotR…


(This post was edited by Glorfindela on Aug 26 2014, 11:32pm)


Avandel
Valinor


Aug 27 2014, 1:56am

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IMO re the elves, Thranduil is uber-cool [In reply to] Can't Post



The long blades, the reverse grip, the whole effect = BADASS. Not that L & T don't do some nice knife work, but this looks EPICHeartHeartHeart A true elven king, a winter kingHeartHeartHeart

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Faleel
Rohan


Aug 27 2014, 2:01am

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"Green" mode?


Lurker in the Mirk
Valinor


Aug 27 2014, 2:14am

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Definitely Thranduil FTW [In reply to] Can't Post

*ahem* As analysed in the Thranduil's Weapons and Fighting Style thread, Thranduil is just too BADASS not to take top honours. Juust... no surfy Leggy stunts please.Frown His gravitas is just too elegant for that Tongue


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Bombadil
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Aug 27 2014, 6:25am

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Girdle of Melian
Lorien

Aug 27 2014, 6:33am

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Here's my take on it... [In reply to] Can't Post

Tauriel, if going to die, will likely sacrifice herself in battle to save her love or Legolas; may not be as epic fighting but probably gritty and memorable....

Legolas will definitely have cool scenes, but most likely most spread out moves; nothing super memorable in return for having many screen shots

Galadriel, being a Noldor, may not necessarily have the best moves, but probably should be shown to move faster than most of the other Elves, and perhaps display more mystical powers, and if she's to fight Sauron, I have a feeling it will be one of those magic/sword fights Wuxia style (but ME version...lol)..

Thandruil, well, someone already said it....Legolas must have learned his cool moves from his father, but I am not sure if he will better than Elrond. I think the Ninja of ME should go Elrond..lol


dormouse
Half-elven


Aug 27 2014, 8:06am

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No idea what a ninja is - apart from a turtle ;-) [In reply to] Can't Post

... but the ultimate elf in The Hobbit is...the Elvenking - and film Thranduil is certainly living up to expectations. He has the presence, the grace, the edge of danger, and I'm betting when it comes to fighting he's the one who taught Legolas all he knows.

Galadriel won't fight with a weapon, I don't think. In fact, I doubt if she'll fight at all - her power is of a completely different kind.


(This post was edited by dormouse on Aug 27 2014, 8:07am)


VValar
Gondor


Aug 27 2014, 9:52am

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Sure a Boy can jump in [In reply to] Can't Post

But how can you vote for the B's of Middle Earth (except for Beorn, though I wouldn't exactly call him a ninja, I would be very afraid if I saw that Bear running after me)..... when there is so much Badass fighting going on with the Beautiful to Behold Elves?


Elarie
Gondor

Aug 27 2014, 12:06pm

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Thranduil, please! [In reply to] Can't Post

Loved the cool, elegant way he took off that orc's head without even looking at it and I'm hoping for some wonderful sword work in the battle. Honest, I'm really not a bloodthirsty person but would love to see the Elven King in action.

As for Galadriel, please please please no sword fighting. That would be absolutely awful.

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Darkstone
Immortal


Aug 27 2014, 1:56pm

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The Elf you never see. [In reply to] Can't Post

I'm voting Gildor Inglorion.

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dormouse
Half-elven


Aug 27 2014, 2:59pm

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I've often seen him.... [In reply to] Can't Post

..whenever I read the book Wink


Darkstone
Immortal


Aug 27 2014, 3:27pm

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Yes, but... [In reply to] Can't Post

...he's seen you even more often:

'We have seen you often before with Bilbo, though you may not have seen us.'
...

They now marched on again in silence, and passed like shadows...

Sound like ninjas to me! (Or rather, *don't* sound...)

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Aragorn and Legolas went now with Éomer in the van.
-Helm’s Deep, Chapter 7, Book III, The Two Towers



"Rorth Rorlingas!!"

Sauron: "And I would have gotten away with it, too, if it weren't for those meddling hobbits!"

(Thanks to Brethil for image and battlecry.)


dormouse
Half-elven


Aug 27 2014, 3:59pm

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Good one! [In reply to] Can't Post

Clearly a Ninja is not some form of turtle, then..... Tongue


Darkstone
Immortal


Aug 27 2014, 4:59pm

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Frankly... [In reply to] Can't Post

...I think the "Teenage" part of the description of the turtles in question would preclude them from being quiet.

Therefore "Teenage Ninja" would be an oxymoron, like “Military Intelligence”, "Microsoft Works", or "Faithful Adaptation".

Er, wait. Am I going to be in trouble for an ageist comment? My only excuse is I haven't had my morning dose of gin and prune juice yet. As Stephen King said, "it really moves the mail". (It, Chapter 14, "The Album".)

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Aragorn and Legolas went now with Éomer in the van.
-Helm’s Deep, Chapter 7, Book III, The Two Towers



"Rorth Rorlingas!!"

Sauron: "And I would have gotten away with it, too, if it weren't for those meddling hobbits!"

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Avandel
Valinor


Aug 27 2014, 5:01pm

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Half-elven


Aug 27 2014, 5:05pm

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DStone? No WONDER you are.. "Half-Eleven" [In reply to] Can't Post

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Avandel
Valinor


Aug 27 2014, 5:09pm

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We understand Elarie [In reply to] Can't Post


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Honest, I'm really not a bloodthirsty person but would love to see the Elven King in action.


It's the same reason I want to see Thorin fire off an arrow at whoever is annoying him *grins*



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Girdle of Melian
Lorien

Aug 27 2014, 7:46pm

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Lol...why no sword fighting for Galadriel and how about Elrond? [In reply to] Can't Post

Her mother-name was Nerwen ("man-maiden"), and she grew to be tall beyond the measure even of the women of the Noldor; she was strong of body, mind, and will, a match for both the loremasters and the athletes of the Eldar in the days of their youth"

...I doubt when they meant athlete they meant just running around and jumping hurdles. As for Elrond, being the son of Earendil, grandchild of Turgon, king of Gondolin. Turgon came from Valinor (the West) to Middle-Earth and was one of the Noldor, who are the most skilled and wisest of all Elven clans due to their nature and long years of contact with the Valar.

Although I would like to see Thandruil kick major ass, I think Elrond should be portrayed to be more skilled...


Elarie
Gondor

Aug 27 2014, 8:28pm

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Galadriel's power [In reply to] Can't Post

Galadriel is a survivor of the crushing ice, so she's definitely strong and could probably wield a mean sword, but I imagine her as having a different kind of power to bring to the table. Somehow she threw down the walls of Dol Guldur, something that apparently no one else could do, so I'm really hoping they leave Galadriel as Tolkien wrote her. There are already so many people with swords running around, to add Galadriel to their number just takes away her specialness and makes her real power seem less important.

Also, I'm just really, really tired of the current movie trend that says that only women who turn themselves into pint-size little man-clones can be worthy of respect.

Galadriel has no sword. Galadriel needs no sword. Wink

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Riven Delve
Grey Havens


Aug 27 2014, 8:42pm

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I like your thinking, Elarie! [In reply to] Can't Post


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Galadriel has no sword. Galadriel needs no sword. Wink



I am really hoping to see Galadriel "throw down" the walls of Dol Guldur in her own unique way. I'll be even more impressed if she does it barefoot. Cool


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Glassary
Rivendell


Aug 28 2014, 1:29am

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Feel it's going to be Thranduil going all ninja. [In reply to] Can't Post

But it would be amazing to see Galadriel unleash some elven awesomeness and
show the boys how it's done.

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