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but if that was the case then why

Cirashala
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Aug 24, 5:56am


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but if that was the case then why [In reply to] Can't Post

would the company have been mounted on ponies throughout the beginning of the book? If they were foot hardy and so determined to be so, then why not just take one pony with a pack (or maybe two- we know how much they love to eat lol Wink) and lead them on halters?

Tolkien specifically mentioned them traveling across most of Middle-earth with ponies- even though they weren't pursued by foul creatures until after they got captured in Goblin Town (unless you count the trolls, but that wasn't really pursuit just an unfortunate and rather embarrassing run-in). So the goblins ate the first round of ponies, the second were Beorn's and were returned prior to Mirkwood, and the third set were from Laketown, and were eaten by Smaug.

So unless there are ONLY 42 ponies in all of Middle-earth at the time, it makes sense to me to not have every single dwarf in Dain's army on foot. Especially if they had to make speed after learning their cousin was in a siege situation. But I can see what others have mentioned above, and I agree- perhaps there was a majority of foot soldiers, but there's also the possibility that some were mounted as well- a good army relies on more than just infantry to win a battle. You need archers for long distance, you need strong spearmen against mounted foes, strong swordsmen/axemen to take care of infantry work, and yes some mounts, while not 100% necessary, can improve odds in your favor, especially if your opponent is mounted as well (infantry against mounts=mounts will win every time even if losses are sustained in the process).

Or perhaps maybe all the ponies went on strike after hearing the news about their ill-fated cousins, because it certainly seems that being a dwarf pony in the Hobbit is the equivalent of being a red shirt in Star Trek Tongue


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What is your opinion on the Dwarves not being on foot in the movie.? Thorins_apprentice Send a private message to Thorins_apprentice Aug 23, 8:45pm
    Honestly I think it is realistic to expect them to take horses DaughterofLaketown Send a private message to DaughterofLaketown Aug 23, 8:49pm
        Dwarves and horses don't seem to get along. Otaku-sempai Send a private message to Otaku-sempai Aug 23, 10:30pm
            but if that was the case then why Cirashala Send a private message to Cirashala Aug 24, 5:56am
                Ponies are not warhorses Otaku-sempai Send a private message to Otaku-sempai Aug 24, 2:12pm
                    believe me, I wasn't saying they were warhorses! Cirashala Send a private message to Cirashala Aug 24, 5:03pm
                        Per'aps the rams are an Iron Hills thing... Otaku-sempai Send a private message to Otaku-sempai Aug 24, 9:10pm
                            O-s...YOU ALWAYS have something Logical to say!! Bombadil Send a private message to Bombadil Aug 25, 12:17am
                                Thanks, Bomby. Otaku-sempai Send a private message to Otaku-sempai Aug 25, 1:17pm
                            that might be due Cirashala Send a private message to Cirashala Aug 25, 1:01am
                                Yes, there is a ram on the tapestry Otaku-sempai Send a private message to Otaku-sempai Aug 25, 1:40pm
    Looks like a visually striking image. Spriggan Send a private message to Spriggan Aug 23, 8:52pm
    It's quite possible that.... Silverlode Send a private message to Silverlode Aug 23, 9:44pm
    Do you mean the original company in AUJ or the army in TBOTFA? // Loresilme Send a private message to Loresilme Aug 23, 9:57pm
    It's very hard to have an opinion on something we haven't seen // dormouse Send a private message to dormouse Aug 23, 10:06pm
    Actually, now that I think about it... Spriggan Send a private message to Spriggan Aug 23, 10:55pm
    I like the fact that they arrive in force with cavalry. ... Snowghost77 Send a private message to Snowghost77 Aug 24, 12:36am
    I think it doesn't get much more badass than armoured Dwarves roaring in on armoured rams. Noria Send a private message to Noria Aug 24, 12:38pm
    Re Retro315 Send a private message to Retro315 Aug 25, 12:09am
    super Rickster Send a private message to Rickster Aug 25, 6:44pm
    Im ok with it Fichtenbrenner Send a private message to Fichtenbrenner Aug 27, 2:25pm

 
 
 

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