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What if? (Regarding Gandalf and Radagast)SPOILERS

Mr. Arkenstone (isaac)
Tol Eressea

Aug 23 2014, 4:30pm

Post #1 of 15 (1112 views)
What if? (Regarding Gandalf and Radagast)SPOILERS Can't Post

Seeing the image of a badly wounded Gandalf in Dol Guldur, and after that we see him in Dale apparently quickly fully recovered

What if Radagast gaves his energy to Gandalf in order to save his life and then the brownie dies?

Thar aould be a result that in the end of the movie and in the lord of the rings trilogies somehow we have a bit (or a lot) of Radagast essence in Gandalf, so we would have two wizards in one, making a slightly more powerfull wizard as a result

Just random thougths in the middle of August boredom

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(This post was edited by Mr. Arkenstone (isaac) on Aug 23 2014, 4:30pm)


Aug 23 2014, 4:45pm

Post #2 of 15 (650 views)
Never happen... [In reply to] Can't Post

Radagast is one of Tolkein's charactes who WASN'T killed anywhere in any of the books, so PJ killing him would be kind of like blasphemy. Also, name1 film where the comedic relief character dies? That's what I thought...you can't.

Size matters...

Tol Eressea

Aug 23 2014, 5:27pm

Post #3 of 15 (608 views)
Dobby and the Weasly twin in Harry Potter spring to mind. [In reply to] Can't Post

Surely two examples there from a similar genre?

Beorn's Bees

Aug 23 2014, 5:33pm

Post #4 of 15 (582 views)
Transformers 4 [In reply to] Can't Post

The comedic relief died in that...


Aug 23 2014, 5:59pm

Post #5 of 15 (573 views)
Hmmm...... [In reply to] Can't Post

No idea whether Radagast will die in the film or not but I don't think the idea of super-Gandalf - Gandalfagast - really works.

Or to put it more simply, I don't like the idea of Gandalfagast. It diminishes Gandalf and his unique mission to fuse him with someone else. 'Sides which, I think it's Galadriel who is going to bring Gandalf round. We don't actually know that he's badly wounded, just that in the trailer shot he appears to be unconscious.

Mr. Arkenstone (isaac)
Tol Eressea

Aug 23 2014, 7:23pm

Post #6 of 15 (515 views)
Yeah but his face appears to be injured [In reply to] Can't Post

And I have problems with the continuity of wounds in this trilogy
when Thorin is going to Beorn´s he has barely any scar of the wounds of his fight with Azog

The flagon with the dragon has the brew that is true

Survivor to the battle for the fifth trailer

Tol Eressea

Aug 23 2014, 9:53pm

Post #7 of 15 (508 views)
Why does everyone seem so sure that Radagast is going to die? [In reply to] Can't Post

Seriously, there isn't anything that would point to that.


Aug 24 2014, 12:29pm

Post #8 of 15 (405 views)
Salmacis, [In reply to] Can't Post

I think that the theory is based on the facts that Gandalf ends up with Radagast's staff and that Radagast doesn't appear in the FotR movie.

IMO, he could die in TBotFA or he might just disappear into the forest or he could just return to Rhosobel or he might go to Valinor or something else will happen. Whatever.


Aug 24 2014, 2:06pm

Post #9 of 15 (358 views)
He doesn't have to physically die. [In reply to] Can't Post

He could disappear (as he does in the books) or sail off to Valinor (with Tauriel?)

Tol Eressea

Aug 24 2014, 2:30pm

Post #10 of 15 (380 views)
Definitely only a theory but for me [In reply to] Can't Post

As well as the staff, it's just a sense of the narrative flow of the thing. It's rather like Haldir at Helm's Deep - there weren't any particular plot clues but I think the narrative sense that someone should die there gave a stronger basis for thinking he might not make it.


Aug 24 2014, 10:17pm

Post #11 of 15 (320 views)
I hope they'll do a fusion like in Dragon Ball Z! [In reply to] Can't Post

You know... with all the accurate coreography.
Seriously, that would be AWESOOOOME!


Aug 25 2014, 4:37am

Post #12 of 15 (306 views)
Fun discussion for August (near September) boredom ;) [In reply to] Can't Post

While I agree with most of the above, that Radagast will not die, I do wonder if there might be a passing of power to aid Gandalf, and reduce Radagast's influence for a time, and he would go back to Rhosgobel to restore himself, much in the way Sauron did at Dol Guldur.

Or, he'll just fade away and not be mentioned again, which would make me sad.


Aug 25 2014, 4:45pm

Post #13 of 15 (282 views)
"I threw down my enemy, and he fell from Erebor...." [In reply to] Can't Post

"...and broke the mountain-side where he smote it in his ruin. Then darkness took me; and I strayed out of thought and time, and I wandered far on roads that I will not tell. Naked I was sent back — for a brief time, until my task is done. And naked I lay upon the mountain-top.

"Radagast? Oh yes. That's what they used to call me. Radagast the Brown. That was my name.

"I am Radagast the Beige."

(This could work!!!)

Aragorn and Legolas went now with Éomer in the van.
-Helm’s Deep, Chapter 7, Book III, The Two Towers

"Rorth Rorlingas!!"

Sauron: "And I would have gotten away with it, too, if it weren't for those meddling hobbits!"

(Thanks to Brethil for image and battlecry.)


Aug 25 2014, 6:45pm

Post #14 of 15 (253 views)
no [In reply to] Can't Post

Radagast can not go
We need to have some hope for the future

Mr. Arkenstone (isaac)
Tol Eressea

Aug 25 2014, 6:52pm

Post #15 of 15 (270 views)
you named it! [In reply to] Can't Post

dragon ball z woooohooooo!Smile

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