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Bexlin
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Aug 21 2014, 7:36am
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Not sure if this has been posted, but there is a small piece about BOTFA in SFX October edition:
The third Hobbit movie is Peter Jackson's favourite.
Peter Jackson's on the final straight of his six-movie jaunt in Middle Earth, and he's rather keen on the recently retitled third Hobbit movie, The Battle of the five armies. "By the time we are done with this film, which is going to be the most emotional and tense off the three, I think it's my favourite," he said. "It's got a nice thriller pace to it. When you get to the the end of it, I think it's going to feel like the right time to hand it over to The fellowship of the ring. One day, long after all of this is over, all that's ever going to exist in the world is these movies as a six film series. That's how future generations are going to think of them"
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Glorfindela
Valinor
Aug 21 2014, 7:41am
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He is bound to say that it is his favourite film. I don't care about any links with FotR – in my view what has been done to link The Hobbit to FotR is unnecessary and does not work. This doesn't fill me with optimism about the next film.
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Arannir
Valinor
Aug 21 2014, 9:33am
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He doesn't speak about links or tie-ins here, though.
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Just what they always said... that Middle-earth by the end of part 3 will feel closer or "on the way to" the Middle-earth of FotR.
And to thriller... in the longer version of this he also talked about a character-driven thriller that builds up the tension for the battle - one decision leading to the next etc. when it comes to the battle and also how he will follow their stories during the battle.
To the OP: Thanks... weird though that they are reusing exactly the same what he has already said in other magazines (not sure whether it is Empire or the other one in which he also talked about "Dam Busters" and "As Nature made him.").
EDIT: It was the Collidier interview: Click.
"I am afraid it is only too likely to be true what you say about the critics and the public. I am dreading the publication for it will be impossible not to mind what is said. I have exposed my heart to be shot at." J.R.R. Tolkien
We all have our hearts and minds one way or another invested in these books and movies. So we all mind and should show the necessary respect.
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greenbalrog
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Aug 21 2014, 9:36am
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As a big fan of LotR I completely approve PJ's comment :)
And I think the "thriller" aspect is a clever one since after all this is an adaptation from a book with a clear and well defined ending. The thriller aspect helps spice things up.
The link to the Fellowship of the Ring is a natural thing to do since after all no more than 50 years pass between the events of the Hobbit and LotR, right? So, it makes sense to turn all this into a fluid six film experience.
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Bombadil
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Aug 21 2014, 11:17am
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"By the time we are done with this film, which is going to be the most emotional and tense of the three, I think it’s my favorite of the three, to be honest. I’m not just saying that. It’s got a nice thriller pace to it. When you get to the end of it, I think it’s going to feel like the right time to hand it over to The Fellowship of the Ring. It will feel like it’s gone on that journey. I’ve always been aware of it being a six-film set. One day, long after all of this is all over, all that’s ever going to exist in the world is these movies, as a six-film series. That’s how future generations are going to think of them.
Keyword "PACE"
Recently he has said "Braindead" was a little slow, and the Re-Release of THAT... will have a "Thriller PACE"
Someone here on TORn..has a footer?
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tsmith675
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Aug 21 2014, 12:39pm
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What's wrong with a thriller?//
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Our destiny lies above us.
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Bofur01
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Aug 21 2014, 12:47pm
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Especially considering the EE...
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...Which will probably slow the pacing back down a lot.
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Elessar
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Aug 21 2014, 12:47pm
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I'm feeling as good as I ever have with how good I think this will be. I love that in the end this will feel like a nice handoff right into FOTR. It's going to give me the movie version of how I read the books every year. 
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Elarie
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Aug 21 2014, 12:55pm
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I always enjoy your posts, Bomby.
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Hanzkaz
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Aug 21 2014, 3:39pm
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I’ve always been aware of it being a six-film set.
....what do you mean by always? 
I do agree with the approach to the movie PJ describes. We go from the brighter world of the Hobbit to the darker one of the Lord of the Rings.
I do wish certain details concerning 'precious' had been left unspoiled, though.
From the makers of 'The Lord of the Rings' comes the sequel to Peter Jackson's Hobbit Trilogy -
'The War in the North, Part I : The Sword in the Tomb'.
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Bombadil
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Aug 21 2014, 4:35pm
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"...It will feel like it’s gone on that journey..."
PJ is stating that this Movie has
Always had a mind of itz
OWN..
PJ... is jus' now
letting us know that
He jus' may be "The Field General"
in his Battle to Finish his 6th Film
but BOT5A really is
the 6th Battle.. PJ
will have finished
... trying REALLY Hard to
Bring MiddleEarth to
The Millions
of us!
YEA, PJ & his 5,ooo or so... people in NZ
Letzz jus' HOPE he
Survives
to show it to us..?
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Glorfindela
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Aug 21 2014, 5:06pm
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It's just that I've never heard the word 'thriller' used in the context of Tolkien.
What's wrong with a thriller?// by tsmith675
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Bombadil
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Aug 21 2014, 5:15pm
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Reading Tolkien... izz ..Thrilling...//
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Cillendor
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Aug 21 2014, 9:46pm
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The way Tolkien tells the story isn't that thrilling.
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But the actual events that will take place are very thrilling. There will be so much tension building up between the three armies of the Free Peoples, and then you'll have the Orcs (and hopefully Misty Mountain Goblins, for closure) racing to the battlefield. It'll take place in the decaying, icy ruins of a once-great city.
I don't see it being a thriller in the sense of a mystery/suspense/thriller movie or slasher/horror movie, but I can definitely see how the term "thriller" could apply.
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DanielLB
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Aug 21 2014, 10:19pm
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the word is being used for Jackson's adaptation and not Tolkien's world.
 
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Glorfindela
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Aug 21 2014, 10:43pm
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I would disagree that the way Tolkien writes is not thrilling – for me, it is absolutely thrilling. However, Tolkien did not actually write 'thrillers', which typically involve crime or espionage.
In the inexplicable apparent fixation on attempting to bring the Hobbit films from DOS onwards in line with LotR via extraneous made-up, non-Tolkien material (is this what is meant by a 'thriller'?), despite the obviously very different filming styles of the older and new films, Tolkien's story about the Hobbit, Gandalf and the Dwarves is being submerged.
The way Tolkien tells the story isn't that thrilling. But the actual events that will take place are very thrilling
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DaughterofLaketown
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Aug 21 2014, 10:49pm
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The events are more thriling then the style he often uses to write about them.
"And so they stood on the walls of the city of Gondor, and a great wind rose and blew, and their hair, raven and golden, streamed out mingling in the air."
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There&ThereAgain
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Aug 21 2014, 10:50pm
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All pretense has been pretty much tossed away. PJ and Co are making their own movies using Tolkien's world, not necessarily the Hobbit.
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Spriggan
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Aug 21 2014, 11:15pm
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In the OED at least, is simply a "sensational play, film or story".
Given that, I presume, we think it unlikely that the BOFA will involve crime or espionage, wouldn't it be more sensible just to assume the broader meaning above?
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Glorfindela
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Aug 21 2014, 11:27pm
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In my copy of the OED, the definition of a thriller is 'a novel, play or film with an exciting plot, typically involving crime or espionage'. That's what I have always understood the word to mean. I don't know why I should 'assume' that the meaning should be any other than that, and that's why I find it distinctly odd that it is being applied to a film derived from Tolkien's work. Seems as though the film-makers may be wandering off on a path very much of their own…
And good night all…
In the OED at least, is simply a "sensational play, film or story".
Given that, I presume, we think it unlikely that the BOFA will involve crime or espionage, wouldn't it be more sensible just to assume the broader meaning above?
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Arannir
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Aug 21 2014, 11:45pm
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... character-driven psychological stories with a lot of tension.
And that makes sense for the last third of the Hobbit, imho, when one thinks of the situation/relationships between Bilbo/Thorin, Thorin/Bard/Thranduil and - potentially added in the movie - Thorin/other Dwarves, Tauriel/Legolas/Thranduil and later Gandalf/all of the others.
Not to mention other aspects such as Bilbo's conflict of loyality.
"I am afraid it is only too likely to be true what you say about the critics and the public. I am dreading the publication for it will be impossible not to mind what is said. I have exposed my heart to be shot at." J.R.R. Tolkien
We all have our hearts and minds one way or another invested in these books and movies. So we all mind and should show the necessary respect.
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Lio
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Aug 22 2014, 2:05am
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This has got me wondering, since I remember reading around the time DoS came out that that was PJ's favourite. Has he changed his mind? And is this good? Bad?
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MechaGodzilla
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Aug 22 2014, 3:00am
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This film didn't really exist at the time he said that, so he wouldn't have been able to compare the two.
Mostly though I think he's just like most filmmakers and creative people/artists in general, he's most in love with whatever his latest/current project is. I think this is a good thing, as you'd hope they'd be passionate about it.
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KeenObserver
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Aug 22 2014, 3:39am
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Just had a ten-second mental viewing of a prospective TBOTFA and it was outstanding.
With PJ's comment in mind, the figment of a film was an exhilarating and gripping watch
from beginning to end.
The 'thriller pace' leads one to an almost gratifyingly breathless state that is then heightened
by the expeditiously delivered and extremely well-executed tear-jerking sequences.
It works well.
”The thirst for adventure is the vent which Destiny offers; a war, a crusade, a gold mine, a new country, speak to the imagination and offer…” - Jose Bergamin
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DanielLB
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Aug 22 2014, 4:30am
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It was Ian McKellen who stated:
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Peter Jackson said to me the other day that this film, number two, was going to be the best of all the six films.
I don't think that necessarily equates to The Desolation of Smaug being PJ's favourite film. I don't think PJ has ever said himself which of the movies is his favourite. Though he did say the following when commenting on the film in the DOS special EMPIRE edition:
'This will probably get me struck off The One Ring party list but I am enjoying deviating from the book'
Just because McKellen said that PJ said it, doesn't give the statement much substance and weight. McKellen isn't going to say PJ doesn't like the film, after all. (Not that he's an unreliable source. The best source is always the original source).
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