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Will Bard have any armor other than the chail mail shirt (in the scanned

Eruonen
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Aug 18 2014, 2:26pm

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Will Bard have any armor other than the chail mail shirt (in the scanned Can't Post

Empire cover image) under his coat? It seems he should have picked up some protective gear from the armory.


dormouse
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Aug 18 2014, 2:39pm

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Maybe he doesn't get a chance before Smaug torches it.... [In reply to] Can't Post

.. or he isn't used to armour. It must take a bit of practice


Eruonen
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Aug 18 2014, 2:47pm

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True, most of the men appear dressed as peasants with pitchforks [In reply to] Can't Post

other than the remaining town guard. He may have had the mail shirt in his trunk at home....a relic passed down.


Aitieuriskon
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Aug 19 2014, 3:21pm

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Armor doesn't seem to suit him [In reply to] Can't Post

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But in all seriousness, as an archer (and a particularly nimble one at that) he really shouldn't bother weighing himself down in heavy plate. The mail hauberk lining his coat will give him a great deal of protection against most attacks.

Then again, he should wear something bright and distinctive in order to make himself recognizable to his men on the battlefield. He is adopting the role of commander, after all.

"After all, I believe that legends and myths are largely made of 'truth', and indeed present aspects of it that can only be received in this mode; and long ago certain truths and modes of this kind were discovered and must always reappear." Professor Tolkien, 1951


Eruonen
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Aug 19 2014, 6:14pm

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Agree, not heavy plate, but more protection than a wool coat with [In reply to] Can't Post

a very loose ring mail shirt. Maybe heavy leather with armor in select protection areas etc. Look at the elves...archers with protective layers.


Aitieuriskon
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Aug 19 2014, 6:37pm

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Leather is highly overrated [In reply to] Can't Post

Unless boiled and layered thickly, leather offers little in the way of protection. And don't get me started on how cumbersome and restricting a suit of boiled leather is.

A mail hauberk might be heavy, but at least it's flexible. If he's got a good amount of quilted wool padding beneath the mail then he should be all set. Adding boiled leather over all this would just reduce range of motion.

What he really should have is some proper arm protection as the elves have. This is where a few nice iron lames bound in leather would help.

To add to all this, he really should be wearing some form of head protection, but of course this the film industry so we can't go covering up the actor's face (though as someone pointed out recently the Rohirrim pull this off well).

"After all, I believe that legends and myths are largely made of 'truth', and indeed present aspects of it that can only be received in this mode; and long ago certain truths and modes of this kind were discovered and must always reappear." Professor Tolkien, 1951


Eruonen
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Aug 19 2014, 7:10pm

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Leather - hardened - armor was used for centuries [In reply to] Can't Post

and added a modicum of protection against cutting strokes...add some metal reinforcements etc. My point is not to say he needs to be protected like a front line spearman but to have better fighting gear than his cumbersome wool coat. At least a tighter ring chain mail shirt would be an improvement. My guess is that Laketown had limited choice, especially after Smaug burns it down.

"...Mongol armour drew its influence from Chinese and Middle East styles. Most Mongolian armour was of scale and lamellar variety. Most armour was made of hardened leather and iron, lanced together onto a fabric backing, sometimes silk....Mongol archers demanded the armour to be light enough so that when riding, it didn't interfere with their mobility "

http://www.mongolian-yurt.com/resources/P_Armor.gif


(This post was edited by Eruonen on Aug 19 2014, 7:16pm)

 
 

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