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Does anyone else want the end credits to be like ROTK?
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boldog
Rohan


Aug 12 2014, 11:00am

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Does anyone else want the end credits to be like ROTK? Can't Post

I really want this!
Love to see the concept art being displayed during the credits, just as it was done in ROTK. And also showing the sketches of characters, with the actors name. Perfect way of ending a trilogy! Im hoping they do the same for TBOT5A!
Surely we can all agree on this! Smile

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DaoinSidhe
The Shire

Aug 12 2014, 11:24am

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I certainly do! [In reply to] Can't Post

And I firmly believe they will be done like that again - it is the end of the book, after all.


TheHutt
Gondor


Aug 12 2014, 11:33am

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Absolutely... [In reply to] Can't Post

Or at least, somewhat like this.

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Elessar
Valinor


Aug 12 2014, 12:59pm

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Without a doubt [In reply to] Can't Post

YES Cool



BlackFox
Half-elven


Aug 12 2014, 1:01pm

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You bet! // [In reply to] Can't Post

 


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Voronwë_the_Faithful
Valinor

Aug 12 2014, 1:03pm

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I think the question should be: [In reply to] Can't Post

Is there anyone who does not want the end credits to be like ROTK?

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LordotRings93
Rohan


Aug 12 2014, 1:04pm

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I definitely do! [In reply to] Can't Post

Perfect way to end a brilliant trilogy ala Lord of the Rings. I think they will, knowing this is truly "the end" (for now), so they'll make the end credits pretty extravagant.

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Elarie
Grey Havens

Aug 12 2014, 2:41pm

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Not sure [In reply to] Can't Post

The credits for ROTK were the best, and most moving, I've ever seen. But would a copycat version for the Hobbit have the same emotional effect? And in the future, when people are watching the movies in order, it won't be "the end", it will be the middle, which means that when the credits for ROTK start to roll, new viewers would think it's a copy of the Hobbit credits.

I think I'll put my money on Jackson and team designing something that is just as good, but different. And if the credits contain a subtle nod to the "future" LOTR story, perhaps a final visual reference to the One Ring, I think that would be very appropriate.


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Kilidoescartwheels
Valinor

Aug 12 2014, 2:48pm

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I don't think it would be a problem [In reply to] Can't Post


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The credits for ROTK were the best, and most moving, I've ever seen. But would a copycat version for the Hobbit have the same emotional effect? And in the future, when people are watching the movies in order, it won't be "the end", it will be the middle, which means that when the credits for ROTK start to roll, new viewers would think it's a copy of the Hobbit credits.

I think I'll put my money on Jackson and team designing something that is just as good, but different. And if the credits contain a subtle nod to the "future" LOTR story, perhaps a final visual reference to the One Ring, I think that would be very appropriate.


I don't think it would be a problem if the movie "in the middle" had similar ending pictures to RoTK - after all, even if it is in the middle it's still the end of a book. And so what if some people think it's a copycat? When Thorin, Fili & Kili's sketches come up, tears will be flowing! I do like the idea of the ring being the final pic, though.


Ham_Sammy
Tol Eressea

Aug 12 2014, 3:09pm

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absolutely! [In reply to] Can't Post

I would love it! I hope they do it.

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Elarie
Grey Havens

Aug 12 2014, 3:13pm

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Sketches of the dwarves [In reply to] Can't Post

Oh dear - I'm not sure I want to cry that much. I guess I'd better take 'extra' extra tissues - I hadn't even thought about crying all the way through the darn credits.


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Darkstone
Immortal


Aug 12 2014, 3:35pm

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Nope [In reply to] Can't Post

This a story about *Dwarves* for Aulë's sake, not namby-pamby Elves. I want massive magnificent sculptures of our heroes, not dainty airy sketches.

Harumphh!!!!

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Kim
Valinor


Aug 12 2014, 4:20pm

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I'm pretty sure [In reply to] Can't Post

we'll need about a week and a half supply of tissues to get through this movie. Unsure But yes, I would like to see sketches during the end credits.

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Voronwë_the_Faithful
Valinor

Aug 12 2014, 4:33pm

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Would you accept paper mache? // [In reply to] Can't Post

 

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Bombadil
Half-elven


Aug 12 2014, 4:52pm

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sauget.diblosio
Tol Eressea


Aug 12 2014, 5:17pm

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No, [In reply to] Can't Post

keep it simple. Save the big emotional credits where they belong-- at the end of the final film in the series.

Besides, i don't think The Hobbit deserves it. It hasn't built up the emotional stakes that LotR did, or earned as much good will, in my opinion.


Estel78
Tol Eressea

Aug 12 2014, 6:01pm

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No! [In reply to] Can't Post

It would be another case of "we have seen that before in LOTR".


KeenObserver
Lorien


Aug 12 2014, 8:39pm

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keep it simple. Save the big emotional credits where they belong-- at the end of the final film in the series.

For the six-film boxed set, should/could/would they attach The Hobbit sketches to the RotK ending credits?

Is that preferable? Would that be appropriate?


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Besides, i don't think The Hobbit deserves it. It hasn't built up the emotional stakes that LotR did, or earned as much good will, in my opinion.

I agree with you for the most part, but I'm not too concerned about whether this trilogy deserves it or not.

Personally, I wouldn't mind seeing illustrations of the characters and other such things that are included in The Hobbit during the TBOTFA's closing credits.

It's the end of a tale and it is a time to remember the characters and events that were at the forefront of this story.

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(This post was edited by KeenObserver on Aug 12 2014, 8:45pm)


Pipe Dream
Gondor


Aug 12 2014, 8:46pm

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I'm inclined to say yes. [In reply to] Can't Post

With maybe some future event sketches thrown in? Repeating ideas, like lines makes me cringe..."It's not natural. None of it." -shudder. Keep Sam's lines for Sam, that takes me out of the story every time. Crazy

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Bladerunner
Gondor


Aug 13 2014, 12:12am

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No.... [In reply to] Can't Post

I would prefer something different.
I think there were way too many similarities already in the first two films.
A little variety would be welcome.
Black and white photographic images of moments from the journey might be a nice change.

(This post was edited by Bladerunner on Aug 13 2014, 12:13am)


the 13th warrior
Rivendell

Aug 13 2014, 12:36am

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Well if doing the credits were up to me..... [In reply to] Can't Post

Hello Boldog and others, here's an idea that might satisfy some or dismay others, what if filmmakers took candid photos of cast in costume or movie stills from peak, special moments, froze their images, doctored them a bit so they look like an ancient painting or sculpture even, and superimposed them into a movie background that symbolized their role/their quest/their home/character.

The dwarves' pictures would all go with Lonely Mt. shots--lots of angles and possibilities there. Imagine Thorin with a big enigmatic smile next to a beautiful lonely mt. peak exterior, perhaps Balin with the Durin's moon (light on keyhole) behind him, other dwarves images put next or in shots of forges, lonely mt. great gate statues, huge throne room, etc. These pictures of the actors could be big head shots or full bodied with characters doing something or being somewhere that is appropriate

Gandalf might be seen in a wilderness shot, a lonely figure on the road with his staff, Beorn poses with axe by his house and animals, Elrond portrait in that cool moonletters on the map scene with that eerie rays of light all around him, Thranduil sitting on his throne in that wild looking cathedral with trees royal court room, Bilbo by his beloved front door of Bag End.

I really liked the pen ink sketches of ROTK and it's a really nice take a final bow moment, but i would hope they would change the style a bit so it wouldn't be a direct copy. wonder if pj and the gang will think play it safe and make it very much like ROTK, i might be a tiny bit disappointed, but not much. am sure they will pull off a great emotional credit roll, wonder what singer-band will get the honors for "the last song of the movie" -- what do you think???

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Nira
Lorien


Aug 13 2014, 2:26am

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YES!!! Or, at least something that works as beautifully// [In reply to] Can't Post

 

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davidjUK
Bree


Aug 13 2014, 1:02pm

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No [In reply to] Can't Post

I'm going to say no. I think it is perfect for the Return of the King, as it is the end of these films. "The Hobbit: The Battle of the Five Armies" is not the end of these 6 films, it' almost like the middle chapter.


TheHutt
Gondor


Aug 13 2014, 2:00pm

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How about... [In reply to] Can't Post

...credits with portraits, but without the "The End" title card? :)

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Glorfindela
Valinor


Aug 13 2014, 2:24pm

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No, thank you [In reply to] Can't Post

I think the end credits should be specific to the final film, and should relate to the story in The Hobbit. I also don't need ANY references to LotR in the credits. I think what has been added as padding in this respect in DoS most particularly has seriously marred the film. Apart from the issues I have with the non-book canon characters, I think the visual styles of the LotR films are very different from those in The Hobbit, and trying to somehow link the two trilogies any more than they are linked according to the professor's story is completely unnecessary and messy. It doesn't do any favours to either the LotR or Hobbit films.


(This post was edited by Glorfindela on Aug 13 2014, 2:26pm)

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