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Avandel
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Jul 24 2014, 12:52am
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THANK YOU!!!
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Avandel
Half-elven
Jul 24 2014, 12:57am
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And just for Lurker who is off messing about again
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But since I happen to know Lurker adores Thorin *snigger*
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Avandel
Half-elven
Jul 24 2014, 1:29am
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Agree - I think Thranduil knows who Gandalf is as well
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Thranduil seems like (at least at this point in the story) he doesn't have friends so much as he has allies. Therefore, I think he'll treat Gandalf with a level of respect deserving of someone who is an ally and an equal, but not necessarily be overly friendly with him at this point in time. Re being overly-friendly - no, I wouldn't think so. Logically I think there ought to be a conversation - or at least mentioned - that 1) Thranduil + elves are just going to inflame the situation and 2) there are legions of orcs on the way - which I imagine ought to be the first thing out of Gandalf's mouth. This is going to be interesting in a horrible kind of way - depending on the time frame and/or where Gandalf heads to first - into the mountain, or does he run right into a mass of elves and men? Since I can't remember the sequence of the book....but that's OK. 
I think you might be right re this image - good eyes! Hey, this is the first time outside Legolas that I think I've seen elves bruised up! So this must be a sort of strategic conversation? *Grins* re our horn-blowing elf, I think that is the shadow of Haldir - and elf we don't know that well, but would recognize - yep, you might be right
Terrific link re the high res image. And if it's true there will be a trailer VERY soon, I can quit LOL larding up these threads with storyboarding and Thranduil images - I think I scraped the Internet dry of the best ones so far . Because I can't think the trailer wouldn't have a healthy dose of Thranduil! (And yeah, maddened or not, I'm missing my King too. I'd be insane myself after all the stress )
PS. Don't feel bad about losing a post - I've done that. And I just accidently copied my whole image folder onto itself - what a mess, as the system helpfully made copies of EVERYTHING
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Avandel
Half-elven
Jul 24 2014, 1:35am
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"A sickness of the mind that made him doubt his friends and drive away allies." We didn't get that with Thror, but I'm thinking we might see that with Thorin.  
"Looking back on Bag End, it's...it's like we're just so innocent. We were all so happy...in that place, about to start this journey" - Richard Armitage, The Hobbit Appendices.
"If this is to end in fire, then we will all burn together" - Thorin, The Desolation of Smaug.
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Avandel
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Jul 24 2014, 1:37am
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Those number I think are going to be off the charts. Maybe even Lee Pace is out there, enjoying watching the number of followers tick up and up? I suppose it would be to much to hope for that he is really into Tweeting like Graham McTavish!
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Lurker in the Mirk
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Jul 24 2014, 6:26am
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Thranduil w 13.7k twittees...by the MIA denizens of menegroth!
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Did the earth reverse its axis while I was in involuntary seclusion?? new pics, board bustling like a nest of ants... or like the Oathbreakers taking down an oliphaunt... as if that's not enough surprise, The Elvenking tweeteth...yea even noting the new map of Mars!
@Avandel: The miasma covering mine precious thralldom time has yet to clear... but fair warning, I'll be back! 
*trudge reluctantly back into Drudgery most unwarranted*
Fan of both books and movies; it seems I have severely misnamed myself... for the moment.
Appreciating Thranduil, thread by thread: I, II, III, IV, V, VI, VII, VIII
(Tis true! More appreciation threads for Thranduil exist than ME movies)
 Thrall Wars!: What business do Elves, Dwarves or Men(?) have with drooling thralls, yea, with smartphones in tow, unto the slopes of Erebor? ... oh, yes, the Hobbit's lingering in some shadows, ever ready to swoop to the hairy rescue. Take cover if you dare!
Teh partsies: Prologue (aka the 'tater-mash of whatever came before), Two, Three, Four new! posted 16 Jul
"BoFA"= The Battle || "BotFA"/"tBofTA" = The Hobbit: The Battle of the Five Armies
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stn5
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Jul 24 2014, 2:27pm
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New Photos:
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Avandel
Half-elven
Jul 24 2014, 2:40pm
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I'm just gonna lay on the ground for a while. It's about time for a new Thranduil image and that picture is perfection. *Stares in wonder* (Now where is my mountain king, whom I miss, crazy or not *grins* - oh, I forgot, he's tearing up London in a fantastic performance *grins more* )
Anyway, holy beautiful badass gorgeous Thranduil! Thanks for adding to this thread!
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Eruvandi
Tol Eressea
Jul 24 2014, 2:51pm
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Ask and you shall receive (Thranduil front pic)
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*does a little happy dance in chair* We've got a new pic of Thranduil from the front now!
Here we go:
http://i.imgur.com/Kz0snpr.jpg
and because it was in the article too, a pic of Bard with Mirkwood archers and a tiny pic of Tauriel:
http://i.imgur.com/lIul7TE.jpg
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Re the Thranduil pic, I thought at first that it was just a different angle of him from when he draws his sword like in the video blog, but when I looked closer, it looks like he's just standing with his arms at his sides looking dramatically but calmly at something. Also his face is clean. In the Vlog he had what looked like maybe some orc blood splattered on his face. Here it is for comparison.
Still, the rocks behind him in both pics look very similar, although it could simply be that there are a lot of rocky areas in and around Dale. If the Lego Hobbit video game is any indication, then that could very well be the case. You actually get to free-roam around Dale in the game. It's very pretty, yet desolate and yes, there are rock clusters in and around the city. Some from the destruction and some natural. However it's also very possible that Thranduil just stands near the same cluster of rocks twice. *shrugs*
Re the Bard pic, that one actually gets me really excited because it's like, Bard! and archers! and Bard! and elven archers! and squeeeee! And it hasn't started snowing in that pic yet so, Botfa hasn't started yet. Given the fact that the attack of the orcs/wargs/goblins/bats was a sneak attack and there really wasn't much in the way of warning, I doubt that their getting ready for battle. I bet anything that they're getting ready to go to Erebor and demand that Thorin give them payment. The weapons and armor simply for the sake of show and intimidation.
"Love woke me up this morning
With a memory
Love came and whispered a story
That awakened a dream,
I am a dreamer, take me higher
Open the sky up, start a fire
I believe even if it's just a dream"
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Avandel
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Jul 24 2014, 3:16pm
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Re:
I bet anything that they're getting ready to go to Erebor and demand that Thorin give them payment. The weapons and armor simply for the sake of show and intimidation. Oh yeah *grins*? Wrong or right, I love my mountain king's fire, so I'm hoping that in the face of someone trying to intimidate Thorin he picks up one of those sturdy dwarven bows (as described in the WETA books) and delivers a POINTED response.
For me this is interesting fun speculation - is this image Bard just viewing these allies of his, pre-battle? Or are you correct, in that this is a show of intimidation re the dwarves, and if so, is Bard (who is neither stupid nor unkind) going to have some moment of introspection when he sees Thranduil and these deadly warriors lined up to attack a small group of dwarves (who have been in his home, and even if he's mad at Thorin still...) - that this situation with someone like Thranduil actually present (an ancient, fearsome Woodland King who has no reason to listen to men) is getting out of hand?
Or will Bard re Laketown have just lost it, and be so angry he's more than happy to be firing off arrows with the elves at Erebor? And/or LOL will Bard have a moment of self-doubt, because while he is a great archer, *cough* he's surrounded by beings with reflexes like hunting cats (after all, Bard has been living a simple humble life....)?
Or again, is this just a grim moment before the orcs arrive.....
PS Oh, I was definitely doing the happy dance over the Thranduil picture. It was SO about time - and it's GORGEOUS. Look at those armor details *drool*. Look at that finely cut bone structure - Lee Pace is just perfection, beyond that. A Frost King, indeed.
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Avandel
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Jul 24 2014, 3:30pm
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Alas, the world is not Middle Earth where we could simply gather wood, start a fire, put on a pot of stew (veggie of course 'coz I'm not going around hunting bunnies), and sit around polishing armor and knitting new fingerless gloves.
*Grins* Verily, we have been busy while thou has been off messin' about And Thorin misses you
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Eruvandi
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Jul 24 2014, 6:58pm
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This is going to be interesting in a horrible kind of way - depending on the time frame and/or where Gandalf heads to first - into the mountain, or does he run right into a mass of elves and men? Since I can't remember the sequence of the book....but that's OK. In the book, we aren't told anything re how/when Gandalf got there, but IIRC the first time he reappears after leaving the dwarves at the edge of Mirkwood, he's in the camp of elves and men. *flips through Hobbit book that I'm too lazy to put away* Ah, here it is! Chapter XVI: A Thief in the Night. Bilbo has just given the Arkenstone to Bard and Thranduil and insists that he has to back to the mountain despite the fact he might get in trouble with the dwarves. Bilbo is provided an elven escort part of the way back(maybe this will be Leggy and/or Tauriel in the movie?) and:
As they passed through the camp and old man, wrapped in a dark cloak, rose from a tent door where he was sitting and came towards them. "Well done! Mr. Baggins!" he said, clapping Bilbo on the back [..] It was Gandalf. [..] but there was no time for all the questions that [Bilbo] immediately wished to ask. "All in good time!" said Gandalf. "Things are drawing towards the end now, unless I am mistaken [..] There is news brewing that even the ravens have not heard. Good night!" And Bilbo sneaks back into the mountain, etc, etc. It shall be interesting indeed to see how they handle this in the movie with all the background stuff added in!
Oh, I also think I know what the name of horn-blowing-elf is. I checked the cast listing on IMDB and it looks like he's played by this guy, Simon London and the character's name is Feren. Good thing he has a name because I was very close to just dubbing our potentially expendable friend as R.S.E. (Red-Shirt Elf) *cough* Speaking of red shirts, if you zoom in on the high resolution pic of Thrandy and Gandalf, the fabric sleeves that are visible under Feren's armor actually are a slightly reddish-maroon color! On the upside, that may be the color of all the armored elves sleeves. On the downside, all of the armored elves may die. Things are not looking good for Feren. Poor, poor Feren.
"Love woke me up this morning
With a memory
Love came and whispered a story
That awakened a dream,
I am a dreamer, take me higher
Open the sky up, start a fire
I believe even if it's just a dream"
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Avandel
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Jul 24 2014, 7:58pm
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I fear the chapter you just quoted stirred up the old resentments I had from when I had read the Hobbit for the first time as a kid, and those old angers are still there (this being a child's view of the world, but that tang of it remains). For whatever reason even then I took to the dwarves and I'm still mad at the book Gandalf, and later I read some Appendices where I recall Gandalf and Bilbo talking, and they just seemed so cavalier about Thorin. Well, that's another thread and conversation I already had on the board a while back, but every now and again I get a twinge - like even in the movies when Radagast is depicted as so cavalierly IMO letting the chips fall where they may re the dwarves.
And this chapter quote - oh, that's nice. IMO Gandalf should be heading straight to the mountain after starting this.....OK I'll stop now. Ahem. (Except I do hope Thorin + dwarves are treated with the respect they deserve in the film).
But I DO thank you for taking the time to post those quotes! And of course I think we all hope Bilbo is quite a bit busier during the battle than he was in the book, as I don't think the book version makes for very good cinema. Tho I suppose they could fill the time with watching our elves and dwarves take on the orcs - e.g. having a lot of screen time.
On the downside, all of the armored elves may die. Things are not looking good for Feren. Poor, poor Feren.
*Snigger* I don't know why but your feeling that all these elves are heading to that great starlit "alternate plane of being" is cracking me up. I think it's reminding me of some of the Peckish Owl's stuff. Well, at least we know Thranduil and Legolas will make it, in that exquisite armour of theirs. I've been really drooling over the Mirkwood elves, the layers of fabrics, the armor construction - I was wondering how they came up with those colors and fabrics and from the books turns out it's MULTIPLE layers and dye washes and fabulous fabric techniques - no wonder I have trouble even naming the colors, really - not green, but not grey, but not black re the tunics they wear. It's like trying to describe art glass.
PS. Just reading some of the Nordic history that influenced Tolkien got me to wondering and wandering in my head - e.g. at least some dwarvish concept of an afterlife seems to involve a kind of sleep, when the world ends a cycle they will awake and it is their task to help rebuild the world at that time? And that Thorin's fate with Thranduil returning Orcrist reminds me the images of Arthur, who supposedly will awake at the time he is needed again?
E.g.
http://www.legendofkingarthur.co.uk/king-arthur-death.htm
...So two traditions have emerged. Either King Arthur is still alive in Avalon, awaiting his moment to return, or he was killed in battle. The "still alive" version is the earlier version, while the "killed in battle" version arose later. By the 12th-century most of the written accounts relate to the of the Battle of Camlan, starting with Geoffrey of Monmouth’s Historia Regum Britanniae. The earliest references to Avalon and King Arthur’s death are found in Geoffrey of Monmouth’s chronicles. In Historia Regum Britanniae it is asserted that King Arthur "was mortally wounded" at Camlan but was then "carried off to the Isle of Avalon, so that his wounds might be attended to." In this ambiguous statement we can see Geoffrey is reconciling the concept of Arthur’s death in which he dies (King Arthur is mortally wounded) with that concept in which Arthur still lives (his wounds would be healed in Avalon).
The third, rather odd tradition, is that King Arthur turned into a raven, or perhaps Cornish Chough. The raven, this is a bird strongly associated with myth and legend. In Wales and the West Country, it was held to be a royal bird.
On the other hand, Tolkien *cough* seemed quite fond of elves, not so much dwarves, so I am not sure how much he would associate a dwarf king with this legendary king who worked so hard for peace and equality. Still, I can't get the image out of my head, probably due to some artwork I have seen.
And do elves as we know them die at all, or do they just pass to a different plane? ANYWAY, just me having some miscellaneous thoughts, all of it triggered by that magnificent Thranduil image!
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elf-lady
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Jul 24 2014, 8:33pm
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Gracious, I've been away from the boards forever due to heavy work load. My BFF then sends me an email notifying me of a new Thranduil pic and I *click*...then start flailing and hyperventilating! Egads but does Thranduil not look focused there? His body is "quiet" but I imagine he could explode into action at any moement! (Japanese fangirl type pun there)
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Nimloth
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Jul 24 2014, 8:58pm
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There's a break in the drought! At last a new pic and what a beautiful pic it is! I can't wait to see the teaser trailer.
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Lurker in the Mirk
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Jul 25 2014, 12:59am
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psst...seems like LP will be at comic con
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according to josh horowitz's tweet (aka the guy with the long LP podcast fr TA 5(?).
Fan of both books and movies; it seems I have severely misnamed myself... for the moment.
Appreciating Thranduil, thread by thread: I, II, III, IV, V, VI, VII, VIII
(Tis true! More appreciation threads for Thranduil exist than ME movies)
Thrall Wars!: What business do Elves, Dwarves or Men(?) have with drooling thralls, yea, with smartphones in tow, unto the slopes of Erebor? ... oh, yes, the Hobbit's lingering in some shadows, ever ready to swoop to the hairy rescue. Take cover if you dare!
Teh partsies: Prologue (aka the 'tater-mash of whatever came before), Two, Three, Four new! posted 16 Jul
"BoFA"= The Battle || "BotFA"/"tBofTA" = The Hobbit: The Battle of the Five Armies
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Middle-earth dispatches out of the lurkmirk
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Lurker in the Mirk
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Jul 25 2014, 2:20pm
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So the CHOW for the DOS chapter "The Elvenking" is up
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So here we are (ref discussion on TA VI here and here) - how time both flies and crawls at the same time.
The chapter on the Elvenking is up: DOS Chapter of The Week: "The Elvenking"
Hope to see you there, slathering your appreciation all over it, fellow Thranduil's Thralls 
Fan of both books and movies; it seems I have severely misnamed myself... for the moment.
Appreciating Thranduil, thread by thread: I, II, III, IV, V, VI, VII, VIII
(Tis true! More appreciation threads for Thranduil exist than ME movies)
Thrall Wars!: What business do Elves, Dwarves or Men(?) have with drooling thralls, yea, with smartphones in tow, unto the slopes of Erebor? ... oh, yes, the Hobbit's lingering in some shadows, ever ready to swoop to the hairy rescue. Take cover if you dare!
Teh partsies: Prologue (aka the 'tater-mash of whatever came before), Two, Three, Four new! posted 16 Jul
"BoFA"= The Battle || "BotFA"/"tBofTA" = The Hobbit: The Battle of the Five Armies
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Lurker in the Mirk
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Jul 25 2014, 3:33pm
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Good one elf-lady I so know how you feel. I was all PHWOAR! And sure it has to happen right when I'm tied up with drudgery.
Fan of both books and movies; it seems I have severely misnamed myself... for the moment.
Appreciating Thranduil, thread by thread: I, II, III, IV, V, VI, VII, VIII
(Tis true! More appreciation threads for Thranduil exist than ME movies)
Thrall Wars!: What business do Elves, Dwarves or Men(?) have with drooling thralls, yea, with smartphones in tow, unto the slopes of Erebor? ... oh, yes, the Hobbit's lingering in some shadows, ever ready to swoop to the hairy rescue. Take cover if you dare!
Teh partsies: Prologue (aka the 'tater-mash of whatever came before), Two, Three, Four new! posted 16 Jul
"BoFA"= The Battle || "BotFA"/"tBofTA" = The Hobbit: The Battle of the Five Armies
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Middle-earth dispatches out of the lurkmirk
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Lurker in the Mirk
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Jul 27 2014, 3:45am
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SDCC TH, Thranduil, LP stuff (annnnd big news: LP did ADR for BotFA last month *SQUEEEEE*)
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So Thralls, there seems to be a bunch of stuff popping up re Thranduil and LP at comic con that I wager warrant a sub-thread by itself so here goes:
Just a nice LP interview art SDCC, with HCF, GotG and TH thrown in. Around the 5min mark is the comment on the ADR. Love the last bit of the interview: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HkjNvvRZ69Q
From the list compiled by AncalagonTheBlack in another thread LP banters with Cate Blanchett (from 1.01 onwards): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N7KnFyrZS4U
From the panel thread by Mr Arkenstone: In the uber major poster covering the wall of Hall H, Thranduil on his elk!
(minor gripe, with apologies to Eruvandi and other Tauriel supporters: Why is Tauriel getting not only a frontal but also a bigger image than Thranduil again? I hope this does not mean she is again figuring more in the movie than the Elvenking, like in DOS )
And this... just I hope it mean EEEs of the TH with LOTs more Elves and Thranduil someday ... and add them gag reels on those please!!
Fan of both books and movies; it seems I have severely misnamed myself... for the moment.
Appreciating Thranduil, thread by thread: I, II, III, IV, V, VI, VII, VIII
(Tis true! More appreciation threads for Thranduil exist than ME movies)
Thrall Wars!: What business do Elves, Dwarves or Men(?) have with drooling thralls, yea, with smartphones in tow, unto the slopes of Erebor? ... oh, yes, the Hobbit's lingering in some shadows, ever ready to swoop to the hairy rescue. Take cover if you dare!
Teh partsies: Prologue (aka the 'tater-mash of whatever came before), Two, Three, Four new! posted 16 Jul
"BoFA"= The Battle || "BotFA"/"tBofTA" = The Hobbit: The Battle of the Five Armies
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Middle-earth dispatches out of the lurkmirk
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Avandel
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Jul 28 2014, 12:20am
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From the panel thread by Mr Arkenstone: In the uber major poster covering the wall of Hall H, Thranduil on his elk! (minor gripe, with apologies to Eruvandi and other Tauriel supporters: Why is Tauriel getting not only a frontal but also a bigger image than Thranduil again? I hope this does not mean she is again figuring more in the movie than the Elvenking, like in DOS )
This for me would be a MAJOR fail, right up there with what I think of as an over-presence of Arwen in LOTR. It's not hard to see 'round the net that folks wanted more Thranduil (and Beorn, for that matter). If that happens I will never understand why PJ or any filmmaker believes if you push something hard enough, it will be loved. Not that a flimmaker can just bow to the public any old way, or nothing would ever get done, but Thranduil is a KING. Folks are interested in his arc, especially after the run-in with the dwarves.
And let's face it, Thranduil is compelling. Just look at that new picture
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Lurker in the Mirk
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Jul 28 2014, 12:40am
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Exactly. Glad we're on the same team about this
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That pic*THUDDERLY THUD THUD* Thranduil is KING, ELVENKING! Let no one forget! Why oh why does he continue to be given the hot-girl treatment (as Eruvandi pointed out) in the posters C'mon give us a Elvenking in forward charge already!
Re Tauriel... SIGH... we've talked about this in TA V starting with Kerewyn's post here, but just want to quote elf-lady who put it way more succinctly than I could (me just going: I don't hate her as a character but she's the wrong insert, or maybe the magnitude of her insertedness is grating on my nerves and sense of aesthetics):
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I don't mind Tauriel as a character. Indeed, I think it's very cool to have such a strong, capable female elf and a warrior to boot. But in general I dislike heavy handed introductions accompanied by music that so obviously declares "LOOK! This is the new HEROINE!" when she and Legolas arrive to kill the spiders and coincidentally save the dwarves. Don't get me wrong, the new Tauriel theme is gorgeous. It's just that for me, the introduction wasn't very subtle and she feels a bit shoe horned into the story. Again, this is just my opinion. I don't hate her and I think Evangeline Lilly did a great job with her. I just don't like Tauriel's relative importance over others.
I understand that Tauriel was (among other things) introduced to open Legolas' eyes as to the plight of other peoples with a emotional arc that links his Hobbit-era self to the version we see in when he arrives in Rivendell who is disdainful of dwarves. But doing it that way diminishes Legolas I think. Could Legolas not have opened his own eyes after seeing first hand the death and destruction in Laketown after Smaug attacks? Or what about having more of a father and son disagreement/conflict over whether or not elves should become more involved? Think of the character development! We could have had such a wonderful series of interactions between them leading up to Legolas seeing Thranduil overcome his own disregard for others and honoring the fallen Thorin by placing Orcrist on Thorin's tomb.
Other random thoughts (for whatever they're worth):
- I don't like romances in genre films
- If a genre film is based on a story (or appendices) that contains a canon romance (like Aragorn and Arwen), fine but for Eru's sake, don't introduce one where none exists *cough*
- I love character development...but not with a non-canon character at the expense of other characters, especially the main characters *I miss Bilbo*
supreme OT but found this and was reminded of that convo we had about King vs King
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This, I think is excellent. And, the "patient Thranduil" will get what he wants - those white gems. Interestingly too, I wonder - if Thorin HAD gone for it, I'd have to assume Thranduil would have forced the dwarves to take some elves along, to make sure if those gems. Fun to speculate - assuming Gandalf never showed - would the elves have raised their chances of dealing with Smaug? Tho I also believe the dwarves would have tried to ditch any elves at the first opportunity, probably not successfully.
Brilliant! Of course Thranduil wouldn't stoop to grunt work, even for the Gems, so he would probably send a few trusted elites from his personal guard or the Mirkwood SEAL team. Legolas, if he is certified/inducted into the How-To-Slay-A-Dragon-And-Survive prep course by his Daddy, might be tasked to run Operation White Gems, and deflect the Dwarves' counter-intelligence manoeuvres he would anticipate to happen along the way. Delcious Cloak and Dagger, ME style. But I wager the Dwarves might abandon any attempt at subterfuge pretty quick! In any case, Thranduil would be preparing his treasure vault for the White Gems, the appointed Elven operations leader would be stressing out over the successful conclusion of the operation, the Dwarves would be trying to morse-code each other and having a beard-pulling time trying to keep Bilbo up-to-speed, and Thorin would be extra-difficult to live with while the Elves are with them.
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Appreciating Thranduil, thread by thread: I, II, III, IV, V, VI, VII, VIII
(Tis true! More appreciation threads for Thranduil exist than ME movies)
Thrall Wars!: What business do Elves, Dwarves or Men(?) have with drooling thralls, yea, with smartphones in tow, unto the slopes of Erebor? ... oh, yes, the Hobbit's lingering in some shadows, ever ready to swoop to the hairy rescue. Take cover if you dare!
Teh partsies: Prologue (aka the 'tater-mash of whatever came before), Two, Three, Four (new! posted 16 Jul)
"BoFA"= The Battle || "BotFA"/"tBofTA" = The Hobbit: The Battle of the Five Armies
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Lurker in the Mirk
Valinor
Jul 28 2014, 1:14am
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With Benedict Cumberbatch (love his accent) on IGN: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iTVDuni4xM8
More Galadriel and Thranduil (much more Gladdy than Thranddy really, though does she sound more RP than Aussie?) on fandango: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b_k5pJV2N_M
(and just once more: BLOOPER REEL!)
From MTV: Sorry, Other Famous People: Lee Pace And Andy Serkis Are The Coolest Guys At Comic-Con
(in the spirit of giving credit where credit's due, somewhere I read a little bitty that said LP said it was all Andy Serkis' idea. Yay Gollum!)
Fan of both books and movies; it seems I have severely misnamed myself... for the moment. But call me Lurker.
Appreciating Thranduil, thread by thread: I, II, III, IV, V, VI, VII, VIII
(Tis true! More appreciation threads for Thranduil exist than ME movies)
Thrall Wars!: What business do Elves, Dwarves or Men(?) have with drooling thralls, yea, with smartphones in tow, unto the slopes of Erebor? ... oh, yes, the Hobbit's lingering in some shadows, ever ready to swoop to the hairy rescue. Take cover if you dare!
Teh partsies: Prologue (aka the 'tater-mash of whatever came before), Two, Three, Four (new! posted 16 Jul)
"BoFA"= The Battle || "BotFA"/"tBofTA" = The Hobbit: The Battle of the Five Armies
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Avandel
Half-elven
Jul 28 2014, 11:44am
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AYE Lurker!!! Your post hits the nails it IMO
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PS. Lurker - will PM you later, haven't been able to get to my messages yet to give proper responses. Of course this will be if the 'net survives today after the teaser goes live
But:
or maybe the magnitude of her insertedness is grating on my nerves and sense of aesthetics ):
I completely agree with elf-lady's post. Exactly. And just when I had more or less been calm re Tauriel - and in any case I assumed that PJ & co. would take stock after DOS - what works, what didn't.
Again, not because any filmmaker should jump because of public demands, but based on what I think happened with the treatment of Thorin - e.g. these movies have been an organic process, w. constant changes as PJ & co. got to know the characters. So they begin writing FOR the characters, as portrayed by a given actor, and I also think that viewing the actors through a camera lens as filming went along plays into that.
Would PJ have been sticking a camera in Thorin's face, or would he have so many epic lines, if the character was coming across "serviceable"? I think not. Would he have a camera up in Thranduil's face if the whole effect wasn't completely, perfectly, stunning? I think not. What are some of the most talked-about scenes in DOS (in a good way)? The barrel scene. Smaug. And T & T. How many posts have we seen here and elsewhere, that wish that scene had been a bit longer?
And *cough* who actually is a character from the book? That's been discussed to death, but "the degree of insertedness". Exactly. At a time when the Elven King - as LEADER of an ARMY (who led his people from a great battle after his own father died at Mordor) - should be coming to the fore as this tale comes to a climax IMO.
I haven't had a good chance to view the artwork, except for the blurry pictures, but the shame of it is - and with respect to the feelings and fans of Legolas and Tauriel - please stop shoving these two at us, PJ! If a story is going to have flow - like when Tauriel wanders into the cell area and strikes up a conversation with Kili - it has to be a natural thing, like that.
And it doesn't do OB or EL any favors either, forcibly stretching their parts, because it FEELS forced, and then you have critics making remarks like "the woefully underused so & so."
Well, maybe it's too early too fret, and it's impossible to believe that some key lines and actions done by Thranduil would not appear. And from the sound of it - SQUEEE - Thranduil is in the trailer. Also - PJ & co. are still tinkering - trailer or no, artwork or no, there never seems to be ANY guarantee re the final film. Look at the silliness of the DOS banner that had Fili and Kili in obviously BOFA clothes - and the WB poster had Thorin in BOFA clothes - and the French poster had Thorin in BOFA clothes AND holding Orcrist! Or how about last year re the first teaser w. Azog hopping up - and then he is completely replaced by Bolg re that scene.
IMO folks should just be chatting up Thranduil, coz you're not going to tell me WB at least doesn't listen to the buzz online = $$$. Drop the 'zine a line saying how much we like the Thranduil image, etc. Even Thorin's FB posted the Thranduil image! And Lee Pace's recent successes aren't going to hurt either - last night's "Halt and Catch Fire" was another great episode, and GOTG is getting lots of positive comments.
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Lurker in the Mirk
Valinor
Jul 28 2014, 12:57pm
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Gladdy (or Gally?) and Thranddy for
- sky news, offering more tidbits about the Battle and the Hall H line midnight surprise: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hkLFPxZhveU
- Comingsoon.com, more tidbits all round, though CB seems more loose with the crumbs than LP : http://www.comingsoon.net/...ienews.php?id=121122
In case you wondered about the interview for this pic... well, LP doesn't say anything, but there's some nice shots of him just being there: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8otWN8eoMJk
Just SQUEEEEEEEE re "In yesterday's press conference, we asked Peter Jackson about epic fighting in the last #Hobbit movie. He mentioned that Lee Pace as Thranduil, as father to Legolas, was even more lethal. One big reason to look forward to that movie in December." from the TORn FB
Here's some GIFs of the teaser's teaser. Said teaser will be coming out at 12 PST today... which is 3bladdy AM where I am, but that's fine. I just wake up and hope the frenzy's down to a level where I can watch it already.
And here's a pic of LP at the con, someone did a great edit
Fan of both books and movies; it seems I have severely misnamed myself... for the moment. But call me Lurker.
Appreciating Thranduil, thread by thread: I, II, III, IV, V, VI, VII, VIII
(Tis true! More appreciation threads for Thranduil exist than ME movies)
Thrall Wars!: What business do Elves, Dwarves or Men(?) have with drooling thralls, yea, with smartphones in tow, unto the slopes of Erebor? ... oh, yes, the Hobbit's lingering in some shadows, ever ready to swoop to the hairy rescue. Take cover if you dare!
Teh partsies: Prologue (aka the 'tater-mash of whatever came before), Two, Three, Four (new! posted 16 Jul)
"BoFA"= The Battle || "BotFA"/"tBofTA" = The Hobbit: The Battle of the Five Armies
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Lurker in the Mirk
Valinor
Jul 28 2014, 1:23pm
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and my head hurts from all that hitting...
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Agree with all you said, especially these bits:
And *cough* who actually is a character from the book? That's been discussed to death, but "the degree of insertedness". Exactly. At a time when the Elven King - as LEADER of an ARMY (who led his people from a great battle after his own father died at Mordor) - should be coming to the fore as this tale comes to a climax IMO.
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And it doesn't do OB or EL any favors either, forcibly stretching their parts, because it FEELS forced, and then you have critics making remarks like "the woefully underused so & so."
I'm just  looking at those panels, they seem very nice, but yeah... gotta hope given that it's really a work-in-progress still. Hey, it seems like the DOS EE's got new stuff! Here's to the white stage scene and the Dwarves being in Thranduil's presence together!
IMO folks should just be chatting up Thranduil, coz you're not going to tell me WB at least doesn't listen to the buzz online = $$$. Drop the 'zine a line saying how much we like the Thranduil image, etc. Even Thorin's FB posted the Thranduil image! And Lee Pace's recent successes aren't going to hurt either - last night's "Halt and Catch Fire" was another great episode, and GOTG is getting lots of positive comments. Not sure how much is heard, seen or taken in account, or if it even registers on the radar of the powers that be, eg a running TA thread here. I did take a peek into twitter, and on the TORN and Hobbit accounts, that pic seemed well received, as did the TORN and Hobbit FBs. Too there's LP's own twitter, which seemed to growing its following quite heathily despite being barely days old.
Curious: was LP's visibility at SDCC anything like what the Dwarves got in 2012?
PS - Re PM: cool, will be watching out for it. I might have stuff to run by you re TW5 ... or not. We'll see.
Fan of both books and movies; it seems I have severely misnamed myself... for the moment. But call me Lurker.
Appreciating Thranduil, thread by thread: I, II, III, IV, V, VI, VII, VIII
(Tis true! More appreciation threads for Thranduil exist than ME movies)
Thrall Wars!: What business do Elves, Dwarves or Men(?) have with drooling thralls, yea, with smartphones in tow, unto the slopes of Erebor? ... oh, yes, the Hobbit's lingering in some shadows, ever ready to swoop to the hairy rescue. Take cover if you dare!
Teh partsies: Prologue (aka the 'tater-mash of whatever came before), Two, Three, Four (new! posted 16 Jul)
"BoFA"= The Battle || "BotFA"/"tBofTA" = The Hobbit: The Battle of the Five Armies
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