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Help! When was The Unexpected Party?

Bracegirdle
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Jul 17 2014, 4:04pm


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Calculating the exact hour, day, month, and year of An Unexpected Party:
Karen Wynn Fonstad states in her Atlas of Middle-earth that it (arrival of the Dwarves) was on April 26, 2941.
Also Unfinished Tales, Quest of Erebor states the same date.

We know from The Tale of Years that the year was 2941.
But now using only the text from The Hobbit we find that the arrival of the thirteen Dwarves was at “tea time” (would this be about 4 pm?) on a Wednesday towards the end of April.

Then comes the interesting statement by Gandalf speaking to Thorin:

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And Thrain, your father went away on the twenty-first of April, a hundred years ago last Thursday, and has never been seen by you since- (What a memory!)

Working forward from the 21st (a Thursday), to the following Wednesday is six days, making “The Party” begin on April 27th. To clarify- If April 21st was a Thursday, as Gandalf states, would not the next Wednesday (six days later) be the 27th?

Thus to my calculations An Unexpected Party begins on Wednesday at tea time (c. 4 pm), April 27th, 2941.

I know I must be wrong! But I don’t know why. Could Fonstad have taken her date from Unfinished Tales, and could Unfinished Tales be unfinished? Perhaps someone with more working brain cells than I could explain where my calculations have gone wrong? Thank you in advance!
A curious BG.

Cuio i Pheriain anann! Aglar'ni Pheriannath!

(This post was edited by Bracegirdle on Jul 17 2014, 4:05pm)

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Help! When was The Unexpected Party? Bracegirdle Send a private message to Bracegirdle Jul 17 2014, 4:04pm
    Gandalf misspoke! Otaku-sempai Send a private message to Otaku-sempai Jul 17 2014, 4:49pm
        Thanks Otaku, that cleans it up Bracegirdle Send a private message to Bracegirdle Jul 17 2014, 7:52pm
            Perhaps... Otaku-sempai Send a private message to Otaku-sempai Jul 17 2014, 9:05pm
                Hoom-haroom, well now Bracegirdle Send a private message to Bracegirdle Jul 18 2014, 3:13am
    As for the time of day? grammaboodawg Send a private message to grammaboodawg Jul 18 2014, 1:15pm
        Tea time ? Bracegirdle Send a private message to Bracegirdle Jul 18 2014, 6:23pm
            I would imagine "tea time" varies geographically ... DanielLB Send a private message to DanielLB Jul 18 2014, 6:31pm
                I think there are also other variants in what "tea" means in Britain. noWizardme Send a private message to noWizardme Jul 20 2014, 8:24pm
                    Well, I do thank you noWizardme Bracegirdle Send a private message to Bracegirdle Jul 20 2014, 10:57pm
                        Tea Time Ostadan Send a private message to Ostadan Jul 24 2014, 5:54pm
                            LOL - our poster Dormouse shoulda known this // Bracegirdle Send a private message to Bracegirdle Jul 24 2014, 7:59pm
                            Quarreled with TIME? grammaboodawg Send a private message to grammaboodawg Jul 25 2014, 10:24am
    Maybe the Unexpected thing about it was that it was on the only Wednesday that was also a Thursday? noWizardme Send a private message to noWizardme Jul 20 2014, 4:37pm
        Bwahaha !!! I'm dying here...... And they called it "Twoday". Bracegirdle Send a private message to Bracegirdle Jul 20 2014, 7:20pm

 
 
 

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