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Galadriel using Nenya (a possible way to show a flashback of Sauron and his annatar form) SPoiler

Mr. Arkenstone (isaac)
Tol Eressea

Jun 27 2014, 5:40pm

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Galadriel using Nenya (a possible way to show a flashback of Sauron and his annatar form) SPoiler Can't Post

This is a loca idea people but

Could Galadriel use the power of her ring to undisguise the Necromancer completely? Tthey dont know that it is Sauron when they arrive in rescue of Gandalf

The power of Nenya is somehow keep things without changes as they were the first time . Perhaps this would be a chance to defeat Sauron but not completely

Perhaps Sauron intended that the withe council would believe he is defeated but maybe he didnīt calculate the power of his enemies and maybe he returned Mordor in secret but actually losing more power than he pretended and that would be a crucial thing in the time of the war of the ring. Always speaking in terms of the movieverse of course

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Rohan


Jun 27 2014, 5:51pm

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If they go that path then I'd like to see all three elven rings used. Their bearers will be present after all. So you might as well establish the Three while you're at it

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Mr. Arkenstone (isaac)
Tol Eressea

Jun 27 2014, 5:54pm

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Yeah me too [In reply to] Can't Post

And it would be a cool nod in the prologue in FOTR, showing those rings.

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Elarie
Grey Havens

Jun 27 2014, 10:13pm

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It would be nice to see something that shows the power of the elven rings [In reply to] Can't Post

We know they exist and we know they have powers of some sort, but so far we've never seen exactly what they do. I don't want to see lasers come shooting out of them or anything silly like that, but it would be nice to see onscreen that they are something besides pretty heirlooms. Something as simple as a glow or a pulse from Galadriel's ring as she chants her elven spells would show the audience visually that her ring was more than just jewelry.


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Elizabeth
Half-elven


Jun 27 2014, 10:42pm

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Galadriel's ring preserves & protects Lorien. [In reply to] Can't Post

It is not a "weapons grade" Ring.








Salmacis81
Tol Eressea


Jun 27 2014, 11:26pm

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Not only that... [In reply to] Can't Post

...but aren't the Three supposed to be kept hidden?


Earl
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Jun 27 2014, 11:34pm

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Sauron never knew for sure who had the three Elven rings. He only guessed that Elrond and Galadriel were in possession of one or more of them, since they were the greatest of the Elves left in Middle-earth in the Fourth Age.

Also, the power of the Elven rings was "preservation". They couldn't be used as weapons. For that matter, none of the rings could be used as weapons, as far as I know.

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Rohan

Jun 28 2014, 2:11am

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ANYTHING regarding the Three would be awesome // [In reply to] Can't Post

 


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Rohan


Jun 28 2014, 2:45am

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It doesn't [In reply to] Can't Post

Need to be Star Wars lasers and flashing lights erupting from their fingers. I'd be happy just with Jackson establishing their presence, and existence for that matter. It gives a source behind their power.

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Elizabeth
Half-elven


Jun 28 2014, 2:59am

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What power? [In reply to] Can't Post

The Noldor have many powers not associated with Rings. And, as noted above, the Elven Rings have no powers that would be useful in a confrontation with Sauron.








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Rohan


Jun 28 2014, 3:03am

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"Power" [In reply to] Can't Post

Doesn't necessarily mean explosions and lights that cut down enemies. Their inner power and strength can be expressed in their portrayal and appearance on screen, and by their interaction with their allies.

Jackson could establish the Three before the battle, and then never mention them again for all I care. But I want them to be known to the audiance.

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(This post was edited by Name on Jun 28 2014, 3:06am)


Elizabeth
Half-elven


Jun 28 2014, 3:26am

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Yes, they have lots of that kind of Power. [In reply to] Can't Post

But it didn't come from the Rings.








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Rohan


Jun 28 2014, 3:54am

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Really? [In reply to] Can't Post

"Take now this Ring," he said; "for thy labours and thy cares will be heavy, but in all it will support thee and defend thee from weariness. For this is the Ring of Fire, and herewith, maybe, thou shalt rekindle hearts to the valour of old in a world that grows chill"

Seems pretty powerful to me. I'd like to see that implemented somehow. Doesn't even have to be during the actual fight for DG. I could be Gandalf motivating troops for all I care.

Then there's the other two. They help preserve beauty, specifically in Lorien and Rivendell. That might be able to be used after Galadriel throws down the walls of DG. Tolkien was very vague in his description of what these two rings could do. For all we know, the flood that Elrond summons in FotR is from the power of Vilya. I don't think it's too much of a stretch to have Galadriel and Elrond cleans some of the corruption and evil from the ruins of DG using their rings. Just an idea anyways.

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SirDennisC
Half-elven


Jun 28 2014, 1:46pm

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Not even if they do this? [In reply to] Can't Post

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Otaku-sempai
Immortal


Jun 28 2014, 8:20pm

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Elven-Ring powers--activate! [In reply to] Can't Post

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leonmuse
Rivendell


Jun 29 2014, 4:11am

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Too early. [In reply to] Can't Post

Too early to show Nenya. Let it continue being revealed in FOTR please!


Elizabeth
Half-elven


Jun 29 2014, 4:41am

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I agree. [In reply to] Can't Post

LotR has its own treasures to reveal in due course. Don't spoil them all now! I hope the Elven Rings never get mentioned in TH.








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Noria
Gondor

Jun 29 2014, 11:58am

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I agree too. [In reply to] Can't Post

IMO there are already too many references and tie-ins to LotR in the Hobbit movies

To show Gandalf's ring in particular when it isn't even alluded to in LotR would not make sense in my view.


leonmuse
Rivendell


Jun 29 2014, 4:47pm

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Narya [In reply to] Can't Post

Narya, Gandalf's ring indeed is alluded to in the LOTR movies, but only at two occasions, i think. First at the prologue when it was from Cirdan, then at the end of ROTK at Gandy's hand!


Noria
Gondor

Jun 30 2014, 12:02pm

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Both of those are pretty fleeting and obscure, [In reply to] Can't Post

and IMO you have to be a book reader to get it. Or even care.

So I still think introducing the Elven rings at this stage is both unlikely and unnecessary.

 
 

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